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janeecee said:You also need to rest or sit quietly for the 2 hours. Some folk have had tests at the GP's and told to come back after 2 hours, so they go off and look round the shops etc, burning up the glucose! That's one reason why the OGTT is out of favour with the NHS because the method isn't always consistent, but it is more informative than the FBG.
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janeecee said:
gezzathorpe said:janeecee said:
Hi .... most likely tomorrow. I need to be up and about before 6 to give myself a good three hours before the dog walk. Nearly lost the topping off my homemade pizza into the oven just now!!! Looks a bit of a roadkill but never mind.
Yes gezzathorpe, saw the results. Thanks for posting your test ... and you do seem to be diabetic/glucose intolerant. :clap: :crazy:gezzathorpe said:Hi, I published them about 15 mins ago but now the blog has disappeared!
gezzathorpe said:gezzathorpe said:janeecee said:
Hi .... most likely tomorrow. I need to be up and about before 6 to give myself a good three hours before the dog walk. Nearly lost the topping off my homemade pizza into the oven just now!!! Looks a bit of a roadkill but never mind.
Hi, I published them about 15 mins ago but now the blog has disappeared!
While it was still up I grabbed the figures :Tubsolard said:..would be interested in the results...Lucozade is horrible first thing in the morning though-Bleurgh
What do you mean ... "first thing in the morning", horrible ANYTIME! :lolno:Tubsolard said:...Lucozade is horrible first thing in the morning though-Bleurgh
FergusCrawford said:While it was still up I grabbed the figures :Tubsolard said:..would be interested in the results...Lucozade is horrible first thing in the morning though-Bleurgh
0:00 5.0
0:15 8.3
0:30 11.2
0:45 12.5
1:00 14.7
1:15 14
1:30 12.9
1:45 9.7
2:00 8.7
2:15 5.4
2:30 4.8
Gezzathorpe can update when he has time!
What do you mean ... "first thing in the morning", horrible ANYTIME! :lolno:Tubsolard said:...Lucozade is horrible first thing in the morning though-Bleurgh
FergusCrawford said:Yes gezzathorpe, saw the results. Thanks for posting your test ... and you do seem to be diabetic/glucose intolerant. :clap: :crazy:gezzathorpe said:Hi, I published them about 15 mins ago but now the blog has disappeared!
Like you my first level insulin response seems to be shot, with BG peaking @ 1hr. You commented on where your BG was heading at 2.5 hr (hypo?) It looked to me like it had got to 4.8 (about same as starting BG ~5) Perhaps a litle overshoot but that happens to me not infrequently (dip to 3.8 then liver dumps me back to 4.2).
Mind you look how close you came to reading not even glucose intolerant :shock: and you with a peak of ~14.7 :thumbdown: They need to look at how the BG reads over the 2-2.5 hr period and say you are/aren't diabetic BUT look at this ... :roll:
gezzathorpe said:FergusCrawford said:Yes gezzathorpe, saw the results. Thanks for posting your test ... and you do seem to be diabetic/glucose intolerant. :clap: :crazy:
Like you my first level insulin response seems to be shot, with BG peaking @ 1hr. You commented on where your BG was heading at 2.5 hr (hypo?) It looked to me like it had got to 4.8 (about same as starting BG ~5) Perhaps a litle overshoot but that happens to me not infrequently (dip to 3.8 then liver dumps me back to 4.2).
Mind you look how close you came to reading not even glucose intolerant :shock: and you with a peak of ~14.7 :thumbdown: They need to look at how the BG reads over the 2-2.5 hr period and say you are/aren't diabetic BUT look at this ... :roll:
Looks like my prediction was pretty close to the mark "My prediction is that my bG will be more than 4.0 mmol/L above my fasting level and more than 7.8 mmol/L" ... not bad!.
It didn't end there. I dropped rapidly into a quite severe hypo (for me). I didn't even wait to test but threw some weetabix and banana down PDQ. I will NEVER do that test again! Any ideas on that?, e.g. reactive hypoglaecemia? One site says that can non-diabetics can get that. I will show the chart to my DN next week and report back.
janeecee said:Thanks for posting your experiment and for being brave enough to chuck that poison down first thing. Something I definitely WON'T do until I've got my day-to-day numbers well under control. I've seen the results of other well managed T2s fall into the IGT range after being in the diabetic range at diagnosis. So once again, blood glucose metabolism is something that can be improved with good management of the factors that can be changed (and timely diagnosis). What were your OGTT readings at diagnosis?
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Ambersilva said:Hello Gezza,
What are your hypo symptoms like?
The hypo levels you quote for you are within normal range for non-diabetic people.
If you were to spread your total carb intake through the day, what levels do you achieve then?
Clearly, it is unwise for anyone to chuck in huge amounts of high carb stuff without protein and fat to give a balanced meal.
janeecee said:Getting BG levels down to normal levels is what good control is about, isn't it? I understand that not everyone can do it because of the progression of their condition, genetics, late diagnosis, etc. Impaired Glucose Tolerance is still a condition that needs to be managed, and usually that means lifestyle interventions alone, as medication isn't deemed appropriate at that stage.
Referring to the Newcastle Diet (again), those shakes aren't what I'd call 'low carb' when you consider that the carb content of one shake is the equivalent of 5-6 teaspoons of sugar. I wonder what the +2 hours reading is with one of those, at least for some folk.
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phoenix said:Interesting results. A random test above 11.1mmol/l on two occasions is enough to diagnose diabetes; however most people don't have a random test an hour after eating candy floss (or lucozade)
Normal OGGTs don't reach that high, though they do follow a similar pattern, a classic diabetes pattern is to go up and then come down slowly. However, In the US they say that a one hour level of 200mg/dl (11.1mmol/l) [ venous ] is abnormal.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0003938/
There are quite a few normal curves on the web to compare with. Google: normal ogtt curve images
FergusCrawford said:Yes gezzathorpe, saw the results. Thanks for posting your test ... and you do seem to be diabetic/glucose intolerant. :clap: :crazy:
Like you my first level insulin response seems to be shot, with BG peaking @ 1hr. You commented on where your BG was heading at 2.5 hr (hypo?) It looked to me like it had got to 4.8 (about same as starting BG ~5) Perhaps a litle overshoot but that happens to me not infrequently (dip to 3.8 then liver dumps me back to 4.2).
Mind you look how close you came to reading not even glucose intolerant :shock: and you with a peak of ~14.7 :thumbdown: They need to look at how the BG reads over the 2-2.5 hr period and say you are/aren't diabetic BUT look at this ... :roll:
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