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Another one of my CRAZY theories...

Patch

Patch

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Hormone secretion in the gut is controlled by the brain, right?

Signals from the brain are basically electronic impulses, right?

Electricity takes the path of least resistance, right?

So - when a gastric band patient demonstrates excellent BG control BEFORE any significant weight is lost, is it fair to assume that the reason for the lower BG is due to the lack of a signal (or an INCREASE in that signal) from the brain to release those hormones/not release those hormones into the gut?

SO - could it be that the reduction in size of the stomach, is allowing those signals to cross the stomach, due to the shorter distance between the walls of the stomach? (Path of least resistance?)

So many questions...

Could the signal from the brain be stopped BEFORE it gets to the stomach?
Is there a simpler way to create a path of less resistance than a gastric band?
Could walking around all day with your nose pinched closed stop the signal?

Are the people doing the testing asking these questions? I wonder if they are so focussed on the pancreas, that they are not looking elsewhere for solutions...
 
Patch said:
So - when a gastric band patient demonstrates excellent BG control BEFORE any significant weight is lost, is it fair to assume that the reason for the lower BG is due to the lack of a signal (or an INCREASE in that signal) from the brain to release those hormones/not release those hormones into the gut?
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I would think it is more to do with the fact that they cant eat as much, less food=less carbs=lower bg level.

Simples 8)
 
Wrong again, Sid. Caloric restriction will only allow you to lose so much weight in so much time. GB patients lose weight and regain control of their BG over a much shorter time frame.

You've read this before - do try to keep up. :wink:

[EDIT: That's not really what I wanted to discuss here... Looks like the flood gates may be open, though...]
 
Patch said:
Wrong again, Sid. Caloric restriction will only allow you to lose so much weight in so much time. GB patients lose weight and regain control of their BG over a much shorter time frame.
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Whos talking about losing weight you asked "So - when a gastric band patient demonstrates excellent BG control BEFORE any significant weight is lost".

I dont believe I am wrong in stating that lowered bg levels before weight loss is clearly down to the stomach being around 1/6 of its original size.

So less food = less carbs = lower bg.
 
Totally :?
 
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One of the reasons why gastric bypass surgery works is because it plays a part in the hormone feedback cycle.

When food gets to certain parts of the gut, processes are put into gear. By passing food away from the upper small intestine, some of this hormone feedback cycle is disrupted -which works out as a good thing for those looking to lose weight.

I like the theoretical idea of breaking the signalling process Patch.
 
Cheers - nice to be engaged, rather than ridiculed! :wink:

Any other thoughts on it, alaska?
 
I'd need to do some more reading first Patch -specifically on the hormone interplay involved. I'm far from being an expert mind.
 
Me neither. But anyone can chew the fat! :lol: I'm interested in opinions from the diabetic, non-medically trained PoV. I'm sure those that are medically trained are sometimes, and probably not intentionally, blinkered. They might miss the obvious connections that we might make.

I don't even expect answers (although on forums it seems everyone wants to give you one!). It's just interesting to get opinions from people in a similar situation to mine, on issues that are interesting to me because I'm in that situation.
 
Hi Patch,

This does not answer your original question but it seems that the researchers are trying their best to understand gastric surgery

Can gastric band surgery help diabetics?
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/223660.php

A report this week announces more understanding how Gastric bypass affects metabolism and can potentially influence treatments for Type 2.
New drugs are being researched that may even trigger the same effect of the surgery without the actual procedure.
 
CC said:
New drugs are being researched that may even trigger the same effect of the surgery without the actual procedure.
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Now we're getting somewhere!!! Cheers CC.
 
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