Anxious/Mood swings with diabetes type 2

concerned98

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Hi all,
My dad was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes about 3 years ago and he did not manage it well. He is now borderline type 1 and is currently testing his blood sugar levels before and after every meals. He is taking this quite seriously now and hopefully is making progress.....but..... we have noticed as a family that is is getting quite moody and restless. For example I found him pacing the living room at about 6am one morning and wringing his hands looking very anxious. When I questioned him, he told me he was fine but I knew he wasn't. He is also on medication for the diabetes as well called Forxiga.

We as a family are trying to support him more with the diabetes and trying to understand more about it, can anyone give me any advice on whether or not these mood swings/anxiousness are part of it?

Thanks all
Claire
 

azure

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Hi @concerned98 :) Swinging blood sugars can cause mood swings. I personally get very restless when my blood sugar is high. It could also be worry about the future. If it is that, perhaps have a chat with him in a relaxed way and hope he lets out any worries he has.

By the way, do,you mean he's about to,start insulin when you say he's borderline Type 1? Type 1 is an auto immune condition so is different from Type 2. If a Type 2 needs insulin, they're a Type 2 on Insulin. We have a special forum for those people here if you need more info :)
 

concerned98

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Hi @azure, thanks so much for getting back to me. Im still learning about diabetes, excuse my ignorance, but I thought that if type 2 that bad then it became type 1.(My bad!!!)

With regards to the mood swings we are giving him some leeway on this, as generally hes not a moody person, so im thinking its a combination of everything to do with the diabetes, between managing diet, trying to get blood out of finger tips etc Id say is frustrating for him, but I just wanted to reach out to the forum, just to see if this was something that was common :)
 

azure

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Apart from the emotional affect of diabetes, high blood sugar can cause physical effects which also make you feel rough - eg like your mouth is full of sawdust, blurry vision, so that and the irritation/restlessness it causes can have quite a big effect.

Could he be anxious about the fact he may have to start insulin soon? That would certainly make most people feel anxious.so if it is that, then reassure him the reality isn't as bad as he's imagining, and that he's not alone.

I don't know if he's a forum kind of person, but if he joins here he'll get a lot of support from members :)

Tagging some Type 2s for you @Bluetit1802 @andcol @AndBreathe @ickihun @Mep
 

JaneMarple

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Hi, I saw my DSN today and there is psychological help available through my hospital if needed to help manage the anxieties associated with the condition. Hopefully your hospital offers a similar service your dad can access.
 

concerned98

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when taking the blood levels what is considered normal? Is there a range that my dad should be targeting? i dont know if he wasnt paying attention to the diabetic nurse but he wasnt able to say. is it like 5-6?
 

azure

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Resurgam

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It might simply be due to high blood sugars - since being diagnosed I have noticed that I don't bite or pull off my fingernails all the time - yes I still do it, but far less frequently and I have had several quite long nails.
 

Kristin251

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Welcome. If he does decide to look at this forum he will find he is not alone and there can be many emotional and physical reactions that many of us feel. Getting blood sugars steady helps eleviate those symptoms.

I hope he'll at least give this forum a look.
 

mo53

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@concerned98 hello and welcome. It is brilliant that you have joined the forum and are helping your dad. Have you asked him if he would like to join too? I had never been involved with a diabetes forum before joining this and I have found it really brilliant. It has helped me to learn enough to change my diet, lose weight and reduce my blood sugars. Maybe dad needs to share his fears with others in similar circumstances who are not emotionally involved.
 

AndBreathe

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@concerned98 - If your Dad is just starting to test his blood sugars, hit head could well be in a bit of a spin; particularly if his numbers aren't where he'd like them to be.

I know about a year ago, I persuaded someone (not from the forum) to start testing themselves, as they really needed to get their act together, and they embarked upon a bit of an emotional rollercoaster for a short while when they realised they been managing the diabetes, sort of in the dark, for the previous years.

The other thing is, if he's changing lots of things in his life, whether diet, moving around, or whatever, he may just have a lot on his plate and be struggling to take onboard all that's changing.

I know loads of folks on here, when they start testing their numbers can become a little bit manic for a short while as things like shopping patterns even can change.

I think you're doing the right thing, cutting him some slack. Harassing him isn't going to help the mood in the house.

I hope things settle for him, but certainly he'd get plenty of support here. The place your Dad finds himself isn't too uncommon when people find us.
 
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ickihun

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Does your dad use a tablet or his phone for the internet?

He must be so proud of you, caring enough to help him. You are helping by accessing us in the meanwhile.
We have a few wives who access the forum to help their husbands.
Ultimately thou your dad should be eventually encouraged to pick our brains for thousands of combined years of experience.
Tell him @ickihun and many others would like to support him into step by step making his life much more manageable.
He just needs to test as much as he can for now. We will be asking for his starting point. (Last few blood glucose test strip results). The rest will be supported step by step.
He won't be given a buddy because the vast amount of experience unfortuntely is not in one supporter.
We are a community. Some I call my on-line family.
Some members just read and never post, but we know are listening.
Maybe your dad could just have a little look? Leave the forum webpage available on his gadgets.
And leave it to him for a few days?

You can have our support too.
Keep asking questions when they pop up.
Any help will be something, for now.

Ps. Tell dad I'm on insulin too. (Many others are too.)
 

daisy1

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@concerned98

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope this will help you to help your Dad. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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Mep

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welcome @concerned98 - it sounds like your dad is probably stressed about the management of his diabetes. I do know I have been anxious and stressed in the past when a) things aren't working b) something else isn't working and it impacts my diabetes, or c) I need to change treatment.

I'm now on insulin therapy to treat my diabetes because I'm insulin deficient. I'm not sure if that is the same place your dad is at? I'm assuming he has had the diagnostic testing done in the past 3 years? (GAD test to check for auto immune markers and c-peptide test to check how much insulin is being produced). I've had the diagnostic tests I just mentioned 3 times since I was diagnosed. The last test results showed I had to be on insulin. I'm still type 2 though.

I hope your dad can feel less stressed. Maybe if he wishes to join this forum that may help support him. Also check if there is a psychologist or social worker available to chat to if he needs that too.