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Any Type 2 offered basal bolus?

eken95

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hello everyone. Ive been struggling with poor control for years on Byetta and Levimir insulin. I was then switched to Humalog mix 25 which initially seemed to really reducing sugarclevels with many hypos but now its not working so well so they took me off Byetta and put me on Victoza. This doesn't seem to be doing anything for sugarcontrol and certainly isn't an appetite suppresant, in fact I want to eat all the time! Sorry for the lengthy intro but I wanted to set the scene, I have been offered basal bolus which I feel will give me more control as I carb count anyway. I wondered if any other type 2 use this regime?
Thanks
Erika
 
Yes. I requested a change from mixed humulin 70/30 in January. I now take novorapid and humulin I. I wanted the flexibility to eat when hungry and not have to 'feed' my insulin intake, Hungary or not. Also being on a fixed dose compels you to eat the same carbohydrate intake at every meal. That's my reasons for the change. I carb count and adjust the dose accordingly. It's working well for me.
I see you are new to the forum. I don't know if you have had the information from @daisy1. If you have, sorry but your about to get it in a little while.
 
Hi. If you are on insulin then Basal/Bolus gives you the best control but to avoid weight gain and high insulin shots then keeping the carbs down is vital. Increasing the proteins and fats should help you feel full for longer. What sort f diet do you have?
 
For persons stuck on insulins that don't get improved results then Basal and bolus injections is sometimes the only way to stabilise.
Carb counting courses are on the internet.
I must say though that if I thought that for one single second that I could adjust my diet or lifestyle to avoid basal/bolus injections I would.
Being a T1 we have no choice but injections etc.
Basal bolus is ok but boy.. If there honestly is one singular change in lifestyle That you could do I would make that lifestyle change first.
 
@eken95

Hello Erika and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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