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Anyone tried juice-fasting to bring sugar readings down?

Discussion in 'Vegetarian Diet Forum' started by Beating-My-Betes, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. Petecavo

    Petecavo Type 2 · Newbie

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    Yes, you're correct , I did mean that juicing the food 'raises the index' by processing it before consumption (often guilty of not checking before hitting send)
    However I am genuinely interested as to how you go forward with this, I am 52 so we are not too far apart age wise and I also was getting a bit pessimistic, not living up to my younger expectations of what my health would be like at this stage in my life also.
    However I had a shocking visit to RUH Bath in March 2020 where they popped me on a ventilator and put me in an induced coma for 5 days and told my wife that it was doubtful whether Id survive the 1st 24 hrs as I succumbed to stage 3 sepsis.
    Previously I had been diabetic for years before but surviving this horrendous experience in March is what gave me the boost on discharge from hospital to stick to the low calorie and carb targets but only mainly since September October 2020 when they said my transplanted kidney from 28 years back was now struggling.
    Prior I have a long history of being a bacon sandwich & Snickers munching site carpenter, so healthy food was definitely not my natural 1st choice.
    I am absolutely amazed at how many ailments that were bugging my body have cleared up in the very short time since then and this is on top of stunning (for me) changes in my HBa1c.
    I'd normally say 'good luck' but more importantly than luck I hope you find the 'resolve' to see whatever you choose through, and good luck with that :)
     
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    Pipp Type 2 · Expert
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  3. Geordie_P

    Geordie_P Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    These numbers (fasting mmol 18.6, 12.7) look dangerously high: please be careful.
     
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  4. Beating-My-Betes

    Beating-My-Betes · Well-Known Member

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    Happy to take full responsibility for that. Sorry!

    We shall see. Currently the plan is pretty loose, so quite easy to stick to. Like I said, I'm happy to take the label of optimistic. However, in the last the 15-16 years, visiting various vegan and raw-vegan health forums, long before I was diabetic, I have seen many people improve their health with high-carb, low-fat, fruit-dominant diets. In that sense, to me this is just pragmatism.

    It's not so much a chosen path, but my first choice. Ultimately, the only 100% unshakable condition is that the path I go down is vegan. Years ago, when I tried animal-based keto (Not diabetic, at that time) i hated having to restrict foods I loved. vegan keto would be harder, to my mind. I also don't have any faith in the healthfulness of a high-fat, low-carb diet. That being said, if I had no alternative but to cut carbs from my diet, then I'd do vegan Keto.

    Concern is great. Thanks! I'm also concerned, hence the plan to get on top of things.

    When i saw the doctor, 3.5 year ago he said my blood-tests indicated pre-diabetes, and put me on Metformin. I ditched the medication after a few months, and have been unmedicated since then.
    My current weight is 118Kilos, though I've lost a couple since I started my plan. How much I will lose by Feb 23rd, I'm not too concerned. It will come off. That date is just a stage, for me. The real work will come after that. I just used it as a guide for a date when I wanted to have cut huge swathes from my BS numbers.

    I won't be updating this thread unless is it to reply to people directly communicating with me. But I will be putting up the first blog, hopefully on Monday (Assuming no character limit, it will encompass the first week).

    And thanks for taking the time to clarify your position. Definitely more encouraging.
     
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  5. Beating-My-Betes

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    They are indeed! Fortunately, I'm currently out of that zone.
     
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    Monday 25th, hopefully.
     
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  7. Beating-My-Betes

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    Sorry to hear about your troubles, man. Sounds like you've been through the wars, and are lucky to be here.

    Glad you have things under control, and thank you for your words of encouragement.
     
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    Thank you for your informative response to my previous posts.
    In case you are wondering why I rated your post ‘winner’ it is because I believe winners are those that don’t give up in the face of adversity or, indeed, perceived criticism and doubting response to ideas. I think you are a winning optimist.:)

    I will follow your blog with interest, as I genuinely believe that there are always ‘outliers’ that do not fit the trend for the majority. I sincerely hope that you are one of them, and hope you do well.
     
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  9. Beating-My-Betes

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    Thanks!

    Actually, since I started out on the raw-vegan forums (turns out it was actually about 18 years ago), I have seen people reverse all kinds of conditions, including diabetes. Whether it was via juicing, fruit-dominant HC vegan diets or just 'standard' HCLF vegan diets, I've seen so many examples that for me to not succeed (Other, of course, than my compliance issues) would make me the outlier.

    Anyway, let's leave it at that ;)
     
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