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Fencer

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Tomatoes. Mayo.
I was only diagnosed yesterday. Still confused! lol

Foods that will be difficult to gve up - which ones do I need to can?

Alcohol
Magners - The only drink I really drink,

Breakfast
Orange Juice - I know this is probably a no go, but I love my glass of orange in the morning.
Cereal - usually something lile fruit n fibre, weetabix with a banaa chopped through or similar

Lunch
Panini, crisps and a piece of fruit.

Evening meal
Oven chips with something you can stick in the over (chicken kievs or similar)

Favourites
Diet coke - please tell me this is OK. I think it is. I have swapped Irn Bru for this.
Curry - Only takeaway is my indian on a Friday night. Hints or tips to keep this one alive (less rice/naan maybe?) Fave is a madras.

Probably more to be added. Thank you so much in advance for your advice. Please feel free to link me to other threads that contain the answers.
 
You need to read the advice that Louiseb gave you in your introductory thread. That gives you the basic advice for all newbies that my pal Sue and I hand out here. There is advice in there as to what to avoid or cut back on rather than going through every item in your present diet. YOU will have to do the work on that.

As to what is allowed.......that is entirely up to you. Many foods that you eat will be a definite NO for some of us, then others will be able to eat plenty or smaller portions. There is no definite answer, no list. We don't go through all your food and drink choices. It is all down to what YOU like and YOU testing to see if YOU can tolerate them without affecting YOUR Bg levels too much. You have to do the work but we will help out if you get stuck or don't understand something.

So, you need a meter, a carb counting book, some digital scales, a notebook and a calculator.

Test yourself pre-meal then 2 hrs after meals. That usually gives you an indication as to whether that particular food is OK or not. By that time your levels should be getting back to pre-meal levels. If not then depending on the type of food you ate you might need to test an hour or so later. Fatty foods or slower acting carbs will take longer to have an effect on your Bg levels.

Read the advice........

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Evening meal
Oven chips with something you can stick in the over (chicken kievs or similar)
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lets look at your evening meal
chicken kiev(tesco0
14.9 g carb
18.6 g fat
of which 5.9 sat fat
chips (mccain oven0
per portion of 60g
20.2g carb
3.7g fat

So for that meal you would have just over 35g of carb which is not a huge amount..but more than many t2s would eat in a meal. That only applies though if you stick rigidly to the 60g portion, most people would eat at least double that and think it a normal portion. (if you ate that the carbs would then be at 55g)
The fat content of the meal would also be relatively high because of the kiev. At the very least this will add calories to your meal.

The one thing is glaring obvious is that you haven't mentioned any veg at all.

You could adapt your meal like this.
season a piece of chicken (cajun, mixed herbs,piri piri etc) and cook it in the oven or in a foil packet again with seasonings. You could even dust very lightly with some of those coat and cooks which aren't that high in carbs. (tip add a splash of white wine when cooking chicken breasts in the oven else they can get a bit dry)

Have half a plateful of vegetables , use at least two varieties of different colours. Be aware that root veg and peas are higher in carbs so don't include too many of these.

Try various starches to see how they effect you. Weigh them. 60 g of chips may be fine, you may find though that you do better with small new potatoes (100g of new potatoes has 17g carb..more potato but fewer carbs than the chips)

As Ken says get yourself some scales and a carb book, they really do help to work things out.
You might also want to find out about the glycemic index (but thats the next lesson :lol: )
 
I dont eat takeaways myself but maybe you could try making your own curry instead of a takeaway that way you can control how much sugar is in the sauce as some sauces have a very high sugar content and the biggest carbohyrate content will come form the rice I have a good replacement for rice grate cauliflour and fry in a tiny amount of oil.
 
Indian is my favourite too, here is what I have learned about my body and indians through months of testing. You are going to have to get a test meter to work out your variables. I am vegetarian so things are different for me that a meat eater.


rice and naan are definite no no's, I have an extra veggie dish instead.

Popadoms are made of gram flour, which I think is lentil flour and I can eat that. BUT I can't eat the mango chutney that goes with them.

If onion bhajis are made from gram flour and not wheat flour I can eat small amounts.

As Louise said, the sauces are the killer, so go for the driest curry. Things like kebabs and tandoori chicken that don't have lashing of suce in which sugar can be hidden.

But testing test testing is the key in the begining if you are to find out what you can tolerate and what you can't.


We had a discussion some months ago about oven chips, I can't eat these they spike my BG, but I can eat a small amount of real potato. Other people could get away with a few oven chips.

Same for bread some people can get away with a small amount, particularly good seems to be the burgen soya and linseed loaf, I can't touch bread.
 
Well, it depends on whether they confirm whether you are type 2...but, I guess, as others have said..it is up to you.

Nothing is forbidden...if someting is your favourite, then enjoy it...BUT if it is causing you problems with your blood sugar, have it as an occasional treat, rather than a weekly/daily ritual. You will learn what you can and can't tolerate, and will have to switch your diet to suit what works for you.

Diet coke is OK though! :D (Not exactly a health drink...but that is the same for none diabetics too!)
 
Had an Indian takeaway on Saturday night. Had an onion bhaji, Tandoori Prawn, courgette bhaji and cauliflower bhaji, cucumber raita instead of mango chutnry and a whole poppadom! My bg was 6.2 afterwards :D
 
jaykay said:
Had an Indian takeaway on Saturday night. Had an onion bhaji, Tandoori Prawn, courgette bhaji and cauliflower bhaji, cucumber raita instead of mango chutnry and a whole poppadom! My bg was 6.2 afterwards :D
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thats great that you can still enjoy a takeaway and get such a good bg result afterwards im jealous :D .
however we are all different and becuase this food has such a minimal impact on your bg does not mean it wont cause a spike in somebody else so same advice again to the person who started this thread keep testing you have only been diagnosed a few days and you need to test to learn which in what quanties you can eat to saty within a safe bg range.
 
Totally agree Louise but if you note my cunning plan, I had courgettes, cauliflower and prawns as the main part of my meal :D . I suppose if you only like a certain type of food then it's more difficult but you can certainly help yourself by choosing the foods at the lower end of the carb scale. Still not something I would eat every night mind but I do like making curry too. Of course my curries result in a slightly higher bg - I guess because I watch the fat input as well when I make them. It's all a balancing act isn't it!?
 
Today I had a friend round, so decided to see how I would go with a takeaway. I tested myself before eating - 7.4 (lowest to date :)). I had a portion of mixed pakora, my curry and a half plain naan and half garlic naan (I figured these would be better than my usual sweet peshwari naan). I didn't touch the rice or Bombay Aloo. Kept away from the mango chutney.

2 hours after I was at 10.2 (a fair bit lower than my average to date). I expected to be sky high. Looks like I can enjoy the occasional curry then? :)
 
Fencer said:
Today I had a friend round, so decided to see how I would go with a takeaway. I tested myself before eating - 7.4 (lowest to date :)). I had a portion of mixed pakora, my curry and a half plain naan and half garlic naan (I figured these would be better than my usual sweet peshwari naan). I didn't touch the rice or Bombay Aloo. Kept away from the mango chutney.

2 hours after I was at 10.2 (a fair bit lower than my average to date). I expected to be sky high. Looks like I can enjoy the occasional curry then? :)
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10.2 is still quite high 2 hours after a meal.
did you test 1 hour after the curry as im suspecting it was probably quite high.
guidelines for type 2 say that 2 hours after a meal your bg should be 8.5 or below.
 
Fencer
It's all a matter of choices, which you need to learn about and then make for yourself. there's a balance between, food input, medication and exercise.
Some people select taking more medication as their choice, some prefer to cut back on the carbs and a very few[probably]try loads of exerccise. then you can combine these.
My personal choices are low carb input and lots of exercise, because I would rather not use much medication, since it has side effects.
If you want to keep medication at a minimum, you have to reduce carb intake or massively increase exercise[hours per day!]
Read this forum and search out other information and make the choice that suits you best. that's something no-one can do for you.
 
Hey Fencer. I'd be inclined to cut out the naan altogether and see what that does to your bg. I always just have a mouthful of the really naughty stuff if I really can't do without but I find my veggie curries fill me waaaaaay up :D so I don't actually NEED bread. I'm certain that is why my bg stays relatively low.
 
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