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Are we going to die post-Brexit?

Discussion in 'Ask A Question' started by SeanJ_99, Nov 5, 2018.

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  1. SeanJ_99

    SeanJ_99 · Member

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    I’m scared, I’m only 19 and my life is at risk because of some vote. What do you think will happen post-Brexit? Will we run out of supplies?
     
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  2. Engineer88

    Engineer88 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Probably you will die post brexit. Its unlikely to be due to supplies running out though.

    Some emergency such and such will be brought in no doubt. Might be best to get some extras in if you can though.
     
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  3. KK123

    KK123 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Well I don't want to sound unsympathetic to anyone worried but no, we are not going to die post Brexit unless you get run over by a bus of course. I don't agree with 'getting extra supplies in' because it is that very strategy that causes further diminishing supplies for everyone else.
     
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    sally and james Family member · Well-Known Member

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    @SeanJ_99 In your position, I would make sure, as far as I was able, that I was not going to run out of essentials immediately following Brexit. I would try and time my supplies and prescriptions so that I was not following the "just in time" approach. And, while I fully understand that you cannot and should not attempt to go without insulin, I would try and learn, now, how to reduce my usage slightly, ie by consuming less carbs. I'm not trying to preach "Low Carb" here, just suggesting that an understanding might help make limited supplies of insulin go a little further, should an emergency arise. A T1 will, hopefully, advise further.
    Having said all that, none of us know what is going to happen.
    May I suggest that you also share your concerns with your MP. Make them understand the possible consequences of their actions.
    Sally
     
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    kev-w Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking on the bright side :) no more parallel import (pi) medications so no more insulin with a foreign language on the box with an English sticker over it, having travelled from where to there and however many storage depots in an audited temperature controlled environment.

    Sorry :) rant finished and I'd say not to worry, the makers have published their plans to maintain an undisrupted supply.
     
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  6. Kim Possible

    Kim Possible Type 1 · Expert

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    As a T1, I would not advocate reducing insulin needs. It is unlikely that a lower carb diet would significantly reduce the basal insulin requirements. Therefore, changing diet is not going to help.
    However, I agree with @KK123 that we are unlikely to run out of supplies and stockpiling insulin (or any other medication) is likely to make it more of a problem.
    I always make sure to have a couple of weeks worth of insulin and test strips in case there is a problem such as bad weather which could impact availability and mean I could run out of supplies. I see Brexit another example of this kind of scenario. So I don't plan to do anything different in March next year.
     
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  7. sally and james

    sally and james Family member · Well-Known Member

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    thank you for clarification,
    Sally
     
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  8. Fenn

    Fenn Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I was an in voter but I am also convinced that a huge amount of nothing will happen, at least nothing that will affect the average Joe (or Joanne) on the street, it may cost us more money or lower our standard of living but generally I expect a huge anticlimax, people will not be dropping dead in the streets.

    Heres hoping anyway :)
     
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  9. Alison54321

    Alison54321 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Post brexit we will all die eventually, however brexit is unlikely to speed up the process.

    There is absolutely nothing to be worried about.

    The current scaremongering over a possible no deal is just political game playing, it is shameful that these sorts of games start scaring people. You will not run out of insulin because of brexit, it's total nonsense.
     
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    ally1 Type 2 · Expert

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    I don't use insulin so can't comment on whether to get stores in.
    I feel we may get a bit of delay getting drugs but I feel what I take, admitted quite a few meds, but none are what I call life saving drugs. Yes I worry most if my quetiapine is slow at getting to me and may suffer mentally without it but there may not be any delays.
     
  11. DaveXF

    DaveXF · Well-Known Member

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    We all will die post brexit...sadly some may before.
    What happened to insulin supplies prior to the uk joining the eu?
     
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    JohnEGreen Other · Expert

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    Tell that to the NHS as they are stockpiling for all they are worth.

    By the way how much insulin is produced in the UK ?

    Sir Michael Rawlins, the chair of the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, told the Pharmaceutical Journal on Friday:

    “We make no insulin in the UK. We import every drop of it. You can’t transport insulin around ordinarily because it must be temperature-controlled. And there are 3.5 million people [with diabetes, some of whom] rely on insulin, not least the Prime Minister.”

    So I wouldn't get too complacent if you depend on insulin
     
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    Tipetoo Type 2 · Expert

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    Oh, the humanity!
     
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    PenguinMum Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well there is no doubt the NHS will suffer with staffing issues. How many have been treated in hospital (whether by consultant, radiographer, nurses, many other specialists) by citizens from European countries. When my friend was diagnosed with breast cancer her consultant (not British) said her tailored treatment was down to the skill of the (Spanish) radiographer who persevered and found two growths at the back of her chest wall. How many specialists are the British education system going to churn out to to replace many of these talented people who disappear.
     
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    Gaz-M Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    no we won't run out, if anyone thinks that the EU and our own country would put millions of lives out / damage peoples health then I would suggest yoyu see a specialist
     
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    zand Type 2 · Expert

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    Why would the EU care? We won't be part of it anymore.

    I agree with @PenguinMum that NHS staffing issues will be the biggest problem. Then there's the dent to the country's finances.
     
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    Jaylee Type 1 · Expert
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    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I need less basal and less bolus insulin now that I am on low carb.. but need the human (grown in a lab and not a pig or cow) stuff which gets imported from Lilly or Novonordisk.
    I think you need plenty of pigs' pancreases to make a tiddly bit of insulin so I don't think we can rely on Wrexham for our supplies-
    https://www.diabetes.org.uk/about_us/news/insulin-brexit for reassuring words from the government and DuK.
    I am actually more worried about the huge distraction that all of this is from sorting real problems.
     
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    LooperCat Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Tiny amounts, though. And I’m allergic to anything from pigs!

    Hate to disagree, but since lowering my carbs I’ve almost halved my basal requirement from 42u to 25u daily. And my bolus has gone from 30u a day to less than 5u.
     
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  20. Geoffno6

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    My understanding is that the body releases (or we inject) insulin to reduce blood sugar so less carbs = less blood sugar = less need for insulin, so I think you’re correct @MeldCP
     
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