It’s not that European manufacturers won’t sell us the stuff. It’s the omnishambles of a government here that haven’t got any of the necessary customs infrastructure to process it when it arrives. So it could be sat on a Kent motorway or an airport holding area (with dubious temperature control) for who knows how long.We are not going to war with the EU, they want to sell us all of their wares just as much as we want to buy them. Britain is self sufficient in just about nowt and the whole world knows it. Can you really envisage French suppliers saying 'Non, we will not sell you our delicious cheese'? Can you see a time when EU countries deny us access to medications and at a bigger profit, too?
It’s not that European manufacturers won’t sell us the stuff. It’s the omnishambles of a government here that haven’t got any of the necessary customs infrastructure to process it when it arrives. So it could be sat on a Kent motorway or an airport holding area (with dubious temperature control) for who knows how long.
I agree with you, esp on the omnishambles as this is my concern. I doubt if *they* have any notion at all of the vagaries of custom control at our ports and airports and the decades old cuts to customs officers/systems means that there may very well be an ugly transition period.
Actually, I don't feel (or predict.) it will be noticed much in the immediacy when Brexit actually happens... It will be a while later after the 52% marking the "wrong box" have forgotten why the decline. But then all this will be in the lap of a new government...
I'm going on the bad experience I had with pi Lantus, night time injection, 27 waking blood, heavy day bolussing, change cartridge and woke to a 27, Polish meds with a Spanish sticker overstuck with English, I got a new script, Spanish stickers on Polish packaging and woke with a blood of 27, got a new script, went to Boots for the new script, woke with a blood of 6.
My script notes say not to offer pi....
Agreed on it failing halfway down the pen at times, it was the reason I lost trust in it, wake with a blood of 20, larger breakfast bolus, drop to 6 eat and spike, dodgy Lantus days, but no, this was new and didn't work, at the end of the day I'd rather request a source I'm happy with rather than one that makes the pharmacy company more money through exchange rates, which is what pi is about.I hear you brother.. But I found Lantus in some batches was unstable at room temp at around halfway down the cartridge.. A change from the same box in the fridge corrected my issue. & oddly I could finish the container without issue. Then a few boxes later, guess what..
You realy don't want "temps" dealing with your "slin" in the UK.. That's what happens when labour is short. I know first hand...
You did say you have problems with your vision but you did not mention myopia insulin is not cornflakes or electrical goods for some including several members of my family it's life or death, and you your self Jay no offence intended bytw if every thing is good and so simple why do you think stockpiling by government agencies is taking place .I don't see the shipping of insulin from mainland Europe as any different.
And it will continue to do so for many years. I blame the Remain campaign for this. It was weak and didn't go far enough into the problems we would have when Brexit happened. Remainers didn't believe the unthinkable would happen, and so they let it happen by their own complacency and incompetence. Then there's the media who were happy to jump on the 'British jobs for British workers' band wagon. Trouble is we don't have enough British workers. On average last year EU workers contributed £2310 each to the treasury, non EU workers cost the country an average of £680 each. The media portrayed all migrant workers as benefit scroungers and the uninformed electorate was happy to believe this. Things will get worse before they get better and I don't believe they will get better in my life time. Maybe there's hope for my children's generation.Hope all of you people voted NO to Brexit, as it seems as it is coming home to roost and bite all of the YES voters, insulin users or not, on the ****.
When you're promised the land of milk and honey, and the issues with Brexit are all dismissed as "Project Fear" and experts are dismissed precisely because they know what they're talking about, no amount of fact based campaigning works.I blame the Remain campaign for this. It was weak and didn't go far enough into the problems we would have when Brexit happened. Remainers didn't believe the unthinkable would happen, and so they let it happen by their own complacency and incompetence.
What a horrid thing for Rawlins to say. Complacency indeed, either he doesn't like the PM, diabetics in general or both.Tell that to the NHS as they are stockpiling for all they are worth.
By the way how much insulin is produced in the UK ?
Sir Michael Rawlins, the chair of the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, told the Pharmaceutical Journal on Friday:
“We make no insulin in the UK. We import every drop of it. You can’t transport insulin around ordinarily because it must be temperature-controlled. And there are 3.5 million people [with diabetes, some of whom] rely on insulin, not least the Prime Minister.”
So I wouldn't get too complacent if you depend on insulin
I hope to god you are right in that but we don't know what major disruptions may in fact take place so a refrigeration lorry in the worst case scenario could keep it's engine running in order to maintain temperature control for up to two weeks on a full tank multiply that by how many lorries sitting with engine running for how long as is necessary and now if you would please calculate the rise in air pollution due to the release of particulates by said lorries.It seems unlikely that even in the worst case, stuff would be stuck at the Dover Calais border for that long, so I don't think supply will be anywhere near as badly affected as people think.
Last week I saw an article saying Theresa May can’t guaranteed secure medicine..
Do you have a link to that article by any chance?
The Sky article can't be accessed now, but there is a link to a Mirror report.Can’t link it but google “Theresa May can’t guarantee medicine supply post-Brexit” it’s a Sky article.
That wasn't the questionnow if you would please calculate the rise in air pollution due to the release of particulates by said lorries.
The Sky article can't be accessed now, but there is a link to a Mirror report.
May was asked if medical supplies will be guaranteed, she doesn't actually reply but says she is working for 'a good deal' - ie politician's reply:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-fails-guarantee-medicine-can-13513224
I’m scared, I’m only 19 and my life is at risk because of some vote. What do you think will happen post-Brexit? Will we run out of supplies?
Tiny amounts, though. And I’m allergic to anything from pigs!
Hate to disagree, but since lowering my carbs I’ve almost halved my basal requirement from 42u to 25u daily. And my bolus has gone from 30u a day to less than 5u.
You did say you have problems with your vision but you did not mention myopia insulin is not cornflakes or electrical goods for some including several members of my family it's life or death, and you your self Jay no offence intended bytw if every thing is good and so simple why do you think stockpiling by government agencies is taking place .
Oh I worked as an engineer I was the one who determined what product went where and to which client company depending on multiple customer specs on the same product , for a company that produced voltage dependent resistors for lightning protection for power grids all over the world from Australia to South Africa and the USA so I do have a little experience of production of and exporting of goods.
Actually, I don't feel (or predict.) it will be noticed much in the immediacy when Brexit actually happens... It will be a while later after the 52% marking the "wrong box" have forgotten why the decline. But then all this will be in the lap of a new government...
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