Thank you Guzzler - I will direct my attempts to understand 'fats' in that direction. Cheese, however, is man-made but hardly processed I would have thought (at least not as much as other products) would appreciate
your thoughts in this respect please.
I suppose, though, that most scientists and charities are well-meaning and acting in ignorance whereas some people deliberately prey on those with cancer etc. I realise that there are those in the medical profession (like Hegsted, Prof of Nutrition at Harvard who was in the pocket of the sugar industry) who have knowingly deceived, but I guess most health professionals are just as mislead as the rest of us...How much worse then are the scientists and charities that promoted the low fat high carb diets that have made so many of us sick?
Yes, you're right. I was being too harsh in the way I expressed myself. I am just so angry at the amount of damage caused by one man's hypothesis. I just don't understand why they all believed Ancel Keys in the first place.I suppose, though, that most scientists and charities are well-meaning and acting in ignorance whereas some people deliberately prey on those with cancer etc. I realise that there are those in the medical profession (like Hegsted, Prof of Nutrition at Harvard who was in the pocket of the sugar industry) who have knowingly deceived, but I guess most health professionals are just as mislead as the rest of us...
Edit: Here's a link to the Hegsted story:
https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/12/sugar-industry-harvard-research/
I get pretty angry over the injustice too. Who wouldn't? I'm not sure I always know how to process or constructively react to it, though...I am just so angry at the amount of damage caused by one man's hypothesis.
From what I remember of the timings, the Ancel Keys message seems to have concided with the launch of margerine. Sales were struggling since it tasted of nothing and was like axle grease. So I suspect a very successful advertising and sales pitch evolved extolling the' healthiness' of the new industrial artificicial wonder spreads. This was in the days of Crisco and Stork, and before the Flora days. Marge was a solution needing a problem to fix, and Ancel provided a convenient 'truth'.I get pretty angry over the injustice too. Who wouldn't? I'm not sure I always know how to process or constructively react to it, though...
I gather that for some people, what Ancel Keys was saying appealed to their vested interests so they were happy to adopt the "avoid animal/sat fat" advice for all...
Yes, you're right. I was being too harsh in the way I expressed myself. I am just so angry at the amount of damage caused by one man's hypothesis. I just don't understand why they all believed Ancel Keys in the first place.
You are correct about John Yudkin. This article seems to be quite factual:Not everyone did, was it Yudkin whose carreer was virtually ended by Keys when he refuted the diet/heart hypothesis? Keys was a forceful character and he had clout in the field (why, when his thesis was fish physiology and he originally studied economics, is what I can't understand).
I think Yudkin was right re Pure White and Deadly but its a shame that he did not yet have the mechanistic reason for this in the early '70s.. Even Keys latterly admitted that we should not have been so concerned about cholesterol.You are correct about John Yudkin. This article seems to be quite factual:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig-john-yudkin
According to Dr Malcolm Kendrick:I think Yudkin was right re Pure White and Deadly but its a shame that he did not yet have the mechanistic reason for this in the early '70s.. Even Keys latterly admitted that we should not have been so concerned about cholesterol.
As I posted - I use mild cheddar to combat hunger pangs and, on occasions, will shred it for scrambled eggs. Thanks for your contribution - makes writing something worthwhile.You are right, of course. I have always disliked 'processed' cheese i.e the orange stuff that usually comes pre sliced and tastes like soft plastic. One could argue that cooking foods is processing it but I am speaking of chemical processing as in the case of vegetable oils. I eat a lot of cheese, especially cheddar, without it I would struggle to get enough fat into my diet.
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