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Article: 'The cholesterol and calorie hypotheses are both dead.....'

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by Biggles2, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. Biggles2

    Biggles2 · Well-Known Member

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  2. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Good article, thanks for posting. I especially liked the stats on TOFIs.
     
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    hankjam Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Given that statins can give the illusion of CVD protection, predispose the development of type 2 diabetes in up to 1 in 50 patients taking these drugs, and cause reversible side effects in up to 29% of users, stopping statins may paradoxically ‘save more lives’ and improve quality of life in those taking them[15].

    So glad I took them for so many years.....
     
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    zand Type 2 · Expert

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    Thanks, good info there. :)
     
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    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I see many people aged over 60 and taking statins who truly believe that their 'high cholesterol' is no longer a problem because they are taking statins. I hope that doctors will start to discuss the risks and benefits more clearly in the future.
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Sad thing is their "high cholesterol" was probably never a problem in the first place...
     
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    PenguinMum Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Good article, easy to understand. Strengthens my resolve to avoid statins.
     
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    eggs11 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks @Biggles2 a really interesting article.
     
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    pdmjoker Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    @Guzzler What are TOFIs?
     
  10. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Expert

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    Question not addressed to me but here is an answer any way

    TOFI (thin-outside-fat-inside) is used to describe lean individuals with a disproportionate amount of fat (adipose tissue) stored in their abdomen.
     
  11. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Slight difference, I think, the TOFIs have their fats stored mostly around the organs.
     
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    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    TOFI as answered by JohnEGreen also known as MONW i.e Metabolically Obese Normal Weight.
     
  13. Biggles2

    Biggles2 · Well-Known Member

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    I knew you would @Guzzler!
     
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    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Gotta debunk the myths, lass :)
     
  15. pdmjoker

    pdmjoker Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks! :)
     
  16. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Expert

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    I take your point, but most of the organs in question are situated where?
     
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    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    The important ones for us are the heart, liver and pancreas. The kidneys do require a little extra padding as they are not afforded much protection from the ribs. The abdominal organs and of course the gut are just not places in TOFIs where much adipose tissue is stored so belly fat or beer belly is something I have never had even after having three children. Hopefully, the little weight that I have lost will be from around the organs and possibly the adipose tissue in the muscles, without testing I shall never know.
     
  18. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Expert

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    The abdomen contains all the digestive organs, including the stomach, small and large intestines, pancreas, liver, and gallbladder. These organs are held together loosely by connecting tissues (mesentery) that allow them to expand and to slide against each other. The abdomen also contains the kidneys and spleen

    The pancreas is a glandular organ in the digestive system and endocrine system of vertebrates. In humans, it is located in the abdominal cavity behind the stomach. It is an endocrine gland producing several important hormones, including insulin, glucagon, somatostatin, and pancreatic polypeptide

    And yes I know you can also have fat around the heart as well
     
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    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Yes, I am aware.
     
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