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Attended Talk at Medical centre

woodenone46

woodenone46

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Location
Ipswich
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
At the beginning of the month I had an invite to go along for a hour & half talk to update those attending an update on diabetes info.
Unfortunately I found this a complete & utter waste of time. We were reminded about using the plate method 7 told to eat eat starchy foods & in next breathe told that if our BMI was high then we needed to loose weight. Nothing was mentioned about low carb diets although they did give a short info of the 600 calorie diet & said that everyone is different 7 have different ways of losing weight but did not appear interested in low carb route.
the only new thing that I found out was that my clinic has a designated Diabetes GP who conswequently I have never seen since I was diagnosed & it was not her that I saw then

So sorry there is nothing new to report. The NHS still do not want to budge from there regime
 
woodenone46 said:
At the beginning of the month I had an invite to go along for a hour & half talk to update those attending an update on diabetes info.
Unfortunately I found this a complete & utter waste of time. We were reminded about using the plate method 7 told to eat eat starchy foods & in next breathe told that if our BMI was high then we needed to loose weight. Nothing was mentioned about low carb diets although they did give a short info of the 600 calorie diet & said that everyone is different 7 have different ways of losing weight but did not appear interested in low carb route.
the only new thing that I found out was that my clinic has a designated Diabetes GP who conswequently I have never seen since I was diagnosed & it was not her that I saw then

So sorry there is nothing new to report. The NHS still do not want to budge from there regime
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Typical I'm afraid. The sad thing is the unenlightened folk that attended will carry on eating those carbs.

I think most surgeries that have several permanent GPs have "specialists" but they aren't really specialists. They just undertake the role. My GP is the CVD and stroke specialist, but she has always been a GP with no specialist CVD knowledge on her CV. I think they just divide all these so called specialisms up between them by drawing lots! There is one GP in my surgery who is definitely an orthopaedic specialist though as his CV shows he has worked in that department at hospitals and is the GP consultant at a musculoskeletal clinic. Our diabetes "specialist" has nothing relating to diabetes on her CV.
 
we are lucky we have a consultand that specilizes in diabetes an endocrinologist a full time dnurse. at the hospital plus the practice nurses that are all trained in diabetic care. not bad for an island of 23000. no waiting if we need to speak to someone. even ok about the lchd. i had an invite for a day course but knew it was pointless going.
 
woodenone46 said:
The NHS still do not want to budge from there regime
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Whilst your experience does not seem to be unusual, personally, I would refrain from grouping everyone in the NHS under the same banner. There are some great stories of healthcare professionals showing a lot of interest in a low carb approach.
Being the fifth biggest employer in the world, there are all sorts of people with different levels of knowledge, experience and interest and changing the attitude of nearly 2 million people is a huge undertaking.
 
I think I'm lucky, we have diabetes 'specialists', some good, some bad at our local diabetes clinic (hospital) and my own surgery also runs a diabetes clinic which is run by a Doctor who is type 1, very interesting talking to him because he understands and is flexible!
 
It is different for T1s on the whole because they attend a specialist diabetes clinic with genuine specialist staff.

T2s have to rely on their GP surgeries and don't get to see specialists (unless they are very uncontrolled). My surgery is fantastic, it wins a lot of awards. But I have never once in my 4 years since diagnosis seen a doctor in relation to my diabetes, and on the odd occasion I have seen a doctor for other reasons diabetes has never been mentioned. I see a senior prescribing nurse and have always done. She gave me my diagnosis and if I were ever to be put on meds she would prescribe them.
 
Sometimes it is just so the GP can split up the free lunches with drug reps between them, sometimes the "specialists" do learn more as they get all the interesting cases from the other GPs in the practice. But as most of the "free" training for GP to update them on developments is paid for by drugs companies....
 
Bluetit1802 said:
It is different for T1s on the whole because they attend a specialist diabetes clinic with genuine specialist staff.

T2s have to rely on their GP surgeries and don't get to see specialists (unless they are very uncontrolled). My surgery is fantastic, it wins a lot of awards. But I have never once in my 4 years since diagnosis seen a doctor in relation to my diabetes, and on the odd occasion I have seen a doctor for other reasons diabetes has never been mentioned. I see a senior prescribing nurse and have always done. She gave me my diagnosis and if I were ever to be put on meds she would prescribe them.
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Sadly if you are LADA and on the same insulin regime as a T1 you don't normally get to see the clinic. Fortunately my surgery has a good DN so it doesn't matter.
 
i think we have to listen to them and then we need to decide whether to ignore there advice. lets not assume they are wrong all the time.
 
paulus1 said:
i think we have to listen to them and then we need to decide whether to ignore there advice. lets not assume they are wrong all the time.
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Hmmm...a stopped clock is correct twice a day....:cool:

I suspect that, depending on training and experience, they will either be right most of the time or wrong most of the time.
 
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