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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lataxe" data-source="post: 2742088" data-attributes="member: 594963">Hi Pipp,Thanks for your comprehensive reply and the history of your Newcastle diet experience - a very helpful bit of info.The umbilical hernia - doc's advice was that the NHS is queue-bound just now so that minor things like umbilical hernias are likely to see a wait of years. Unless of course I get a strangulated protrusion!    She also suggested that weight loss from the site of the hernia might see it reduce to near-nothing or even fix itself. It's likely that its a weakening of a keyhole surgery op scar of around eight years ago, through the navel.  (Gall bladder removal). It doesn't hurt or bother me, although I wear a truss if doing anything strenuous. It does feel like the fat that surrounds the gut/colon rather than the gut/colon itself.So .... it seems a good idea to lose weight. I did lose 20llbs some 15 years ago, after going up to 14st 6llbs - although this was partly muscle gain from a lot of power lifting at the time. But since losing that weight (in 8 weeks via what would now be called a keto diet + a lot of fell walking) I haven't put any of it back on. I've been around 13st 1-4llbs for the last 15 years.The lady wife & me do have a good diet in terms of nutrition and lack of processed fud; no excess of refined sugar or salt. Everything is made from basic fresh ingredients .... although we do eat a fair amount of carbohydrate in the form of (real) bread, pasta, rice (all whole grain) and potatoes. I doubt if I'd have any issue keeping a lower weight if I can attain it. We'd have the same diet as now less a percentage to account for a smaller body weight burning less daily calories.I might also do more cycling, as losing a stone or two would see me flying up them Welsh hills. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> The appeal of the Newcastle diet is, fundamentally, that its quick; and that after the first week of very low carbs the dieting gets easier as the appetite diminishes. (I know this from doing that previous diet 15 years ago). But how to avoid eating or drinking liquid "meals" that contain an appetite-stimulating amount of carbs? I suppose I have to gather a list of "meal replacement" products then read the content info very carefully. Being a bit lazy sometimes, I was hoping someone might give me a shortcut to a good product.There is an alternative mentioned in Prof Taylor's book, which is to drink 2 litres of semi-skimmed milk each day to get the 600 calories of "meal replacement" but to also take multi-vit & mineral supplements. Not sure about that one, really. But then, what are commercial "meal replacement" products such as Fortisip made of if not those very things, all in one bottle?The real food option is tempting.  But I suspect that I'd fool myself into the belief that the 1200 calories of real food meals I actually ate were only 800 calories. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />Anyroadup, I intend to start in the middle of next week, after one last New Year invitation to tea by some friends. Regards,David (Lataxe)</blockquote>

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