Back in the bad habits

[Craigmartin]

Hy everyone. After my diagnosis with H1ac of 124 about 2018/19 got put on metformin which gave me terrible side effects with days not being able to go far from the loo. Then Sukkarto slow release which is bit better. I joined here and got great advice from some good folk who i notice are still helping new members. Low carb and excersise got me down into the 70s range. Then they put me on Trulicity and I git down unto the 40s and things were good. No side effects at all on injection. Now few things have gone on and bad habits have crept back in culminating in numbers up in 70s. Going today for blood test and the nurse is insisting I take a statin (cholesterol numbers all good) and she's changing me to a stronger medicine( will find out name today). I was statred on adaminulab (dernatology)last year and really felt low since this and feel like I lost my motivation to excersise and eat carefully. Basically I'm back at what feels the start again. Is it just a case of getting back into good habits or follow the nurse advice who has basically been trying to ram meds after new meds down me? She's been of the opinion from day one it's all about the meds and was bit dismissive of my low carb and refusing statin etc. Would appreciate some advice please. Going for latest lecture from her in half hour so will see what's said and what this new miracle drug is called?

 

[Craigmartin]

Just quick note it says oral tablets on my bio but couldn't work out how to change it to Trulicity . Scratch that. Just worked it out.

 

[JoKalsbeek]

Hy everyone. After my diagnosis with H1ac of 124 about 2018/19 got put on metformin which gave me terrible side effects with days not being able to go far from the loo. Then Sukkarto slow release which is bit better. I joined here and got great advice from some good folk who i notice are still helping new members. Low carb and excersise got me down into the 70s range. Then they put me on Trulicity and I git down unto the 40s and things were good. No side effects at all on injection. Now few things have gone on and bad habits have crept back in culminating in numbers up in 70s. Going today for blood test and the nurse is insisting I take a statin (cholesterol numbers all good) and she's changing me to a stronger medicine( will find out name today). I was statred on adaminulab (dernatology)last year and really felt low since this and feel like I lost my motivation to excersise and eat carefully. Basically I'm back at what feels the start again. Is it just a case of getting back into good habits or follow the nurse advice who has basically been trying to ram meds after new meds down me? She's been of the opinion from day one it's all about the meds and was bit dismissive of my low carb and refusing statin etc. Would appreciate some advice please. Going for latest lecture from her in half hour so will see what's said and what this new miracle drug is called?

It worked before, it can work again. After some grief and just plain not really caring what I ate all that much, as well as some carb creep when I did get back on the wagon, blood sugars are getting back to good again. So it's not like it's a path of no return, if you've been non-low carb for a while. If you can give it another go, do. If you want to give it another go, do.

But if you think you can't, or can't right now... Explore other options if you feel like it. Low carbing isn't the be all, end all, and sometimes some of us need a little help, temporarily or long term. In the end, you decide what is right for you though. No-one else can. (And why take statins if your numbers are excellent anyway?!)

Hang in there, and good luck sitting through the next lecture!
Jo

 

[Craigmartin]

Well it went OK really. Start on Mounjaro in couple of week when Trulicity runs out.Just looking into it now but seems similar drill as Trulicity. Start off on 2.5 then increase after month or so. Might just be the kick-start i need cos I'd certainly settled into a rut of poor habits.

 

[JoKalsbeek]

Well it went OK really. Start on Mounjaro in couple of week when Trulicity runs out.Just looking into it now but seems similar drill as Trulicity. Start off on 2.5 then increase after month or so. Might just be the kick-start i need cos I'd certainly settled into a rut of poor habits.

A friend of mine is extremely happy with her Mounjaro results, so... I hope this'll lift your spirits and help your motivation, as it did hers.

 

[Craigmartin]

A friend of mine is extremely happy with her Mounjaro results, so... I hope this'll lift your spirits and help your motivation, as it did hers.

I'm certainly hoping so. Thinking back to starting on Trulicity i was not hungry and generally felt good as exercising and everything that went with it. The weight slowly came down. Few year on im eating bigger portions often of the wrong things. Finding reasons not to go to the gym and generally downbeat outlook wise. Certainly seems moreso after I'd started on Adaminulab.? The battles in the mind, certainly in my case. Diet and gym im either super keen or super reluctant. Need to find a happy consistency again.

 

[JoKalsbeek]

I'm certainly hoping so. Thinking back to starting on Trulicity i was not hungry and generally felt good as exercising and everything that went with it. The weight slowly came down. Few year on im eating bigger portions often of the wrong things. Finding reasons not to go to the gym and generally downbeat outlook wise. Certainly seems moreso after I'd started on Adaminulab.? The battles in the mind, certainly in my case. Diet and gym im either super keen or super reluctant. Need to find a happy consistency again.

Depression is a known but not very common side effect of the injections you're on (I'm guessing rheumatism?). So you might be on to something there. Alas, the stuff works. So does tocilizumab, but that'd require going to hospital and getting a bag hooked up for a few hours every month or so. (And it has its own considerable drawbacks). You could discuss the side effects with your specialist, maybe add in a mild antidepressant? If they're somewhat doable, as in, feeling down and unmotivated is one thing, becoming suicidal another, you might want to stick it out. Maybe knowing that the depression and possibly therefore, lack of motivation is potentially coming from an outside source rather than from within you, might help you get back on the wagon?

Hang in there.
Jo

 

[Craigmartin]

Depression is a known but not very common side effect of the injections you're on (I'm guessing rheumatism?). So you might be on to something there. Alas, the stuff works. So does tocilizumab, but that'd require going to hospital and getting a bag hooked up for a few hours every month or so. (And it has its own considerable drawbacks). You could discuss the side effects with your specialist, maybe add in a mild antidepressant? If they're somewhat doable, as in, feeling down and unmotivated is one thing, becoming suicidal another, you might want to stick it out. Maybe knowing that the depression and possibly therefore, lack of motivation is potentially coming from an outside source rather than from within you, might help you get back on the wagon?

Hang in there.
Jo

Tbf the nurse did mention anti depressant but don't feel low to the extent of anything more than just generally lethargic and glass half empty rather than normal more positive outlook. Been to the gym today so that's a start in right direction. Not been in 10 week so certainly feeling it now. I appreciate your replies and will see how this all pans out as i get back on track.

 

[Craigmartin]

Gym again today. Small steps but feel like im heading back to the right path.

 

[Craigmartin]

Well I've still been going to the gym and eating more sensibly. Started the Mounjaro on the 6th and this has certainly suppressed appetite but for the first time since pre diagnosis and initial start of type 2 treatment got a problem with phimosis. Not the nicest subject but as my numbers lowered this issue disappeared. Now they have climbed this has returned. What are others experiences with this and any advice? I've sent an online form to my diabetic nurse but feeling very vexed with myself for letting things slip so badly.