Bloating due to pre-diabetes, or IBS?

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45yo, overweight, pre-diabetes (114 fasting)... Losing weight and feeling good except.........

After 30 - 45 min of light exercising - walking in mall, walking down street, cleaning pool, house cleaning - my stomach begins to bloat out, a hard bloating, it gets fuller and fuller until it starts to give me anxiety, makes me feel like I need to sit down (or lay down) immediately…. Feel like total ****, like i'm about to fall over dead.

After laying down for 1hr the bloat goes down 50%. After sleeping for a few hour it’s gone compeletely. After sleeping all night it’s totally gone and I’m ‘reset’..

Having a bowel movement does not reduce this bloating, nor does taking Xanax for the anxiety portion. The only thing that helps is laying down or sleeping.

The bloating comes on regardless of if I’ve eaten that morning or not, or what I’ve eaten - 5 grapes, no food, a full meal.

The bloating also comes on after meals, any significant sized meal. I will have to lay down for several hours to make it go away.

It does NOT happen after exercising. I can do an elliptical for 30, 45, 60 min with no bloating or bad feelings at all.

It’s primarily light activity - walking, house chores, mowing the lawn - and eating. Always at the 30 - 45min point.


My stools are most always loose, either loose or diarrhea.

Is this related to the pre-diabets or IBS?
 
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It’s not something that sounds like prediabetes in my experience and personally I’d be getting it checked by a dr. Are you diagnosed with ibs or concerned that might be the cause?

My personal experience of bloating in relation to diabetes is that for years I was bloated and had gas issues. When I went low carb after diagnosis it disappeared almost overnight. I guess I just couldn’t process the carbs properly and that’s was the result. Possibly some sibo (small intestine bacterial overgrowth, due to too much sugar) But yours sounds a bit different.
 
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Do you have IBS?
If yes, the Quack will call it IBS, simply because you have it.

Are you straining when on the loo, rustling up a gale force storm with pebble dash, or 'through the eye of a camel' watery?
In the former case it could be an indicator of a kinked intestine or other restriction. See the Doctor post-haste.
The others are more dietary. Daily diarrhoea is not good. Your stomach is kicking up a storm because it needs something to do. More fibre, and/or, at the risk of the Carb Police, something stodgy and slow to digest, (How about a nice steamed spotted-**** with custard?). You should still see the doctor, there are other possibilities, but you are more likely to come away with a box of Zantac, or similar.

More immediate. Try a bottle of ginger beer (not ginger ale) for instant relief by belch. Andrews Liver Salts aren't as quick, but nearly as effective. As you claim to have the trots already, its side effect won't be noticeable.
 

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I do suffer from bloating and do have IBS so they say..... the pain can be bad when you get bloated I tend to have a water bottle resting on my tummy seems to ease it some
 

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Hello!
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45yo, overweight, pre-diabetes (114 fasting)... Losing weight and feeling good except.........

After 30 - 45 min of light exercising - walking in mall, walking down street, cleaning pool, house cleaning - my stomach begins to bloat out, a hard bloating, it gets fuller and fuller until it starts to give me anxiety, makes me feel like I need to sit down (or lay down) immediately…. Feel like total ****, like i'm about to fall over dead.

After laying down for 1hr the bloat goes down 50%. After sleeping for a few hour it’s gone compeletely. After sleeping all night it’s totally gone and I’m ‘reset’..

Having a bowel movement does not reduce this bloating, nor does taking Xanax for the anxiety portion. The only thing that helps is laying down or sleeping.

The bloating comes on regardless of if I’ve eaten that morning or not, or what I’ve eaten - 5 grapes, no food, a full meal.

The bloating also comes on after meals, any significant sized meal. I will have to lay down for several hours to make it go away.

It does NOT happen after exercising. I can do an elliptical for 30, 45, 60 min with no bloating or bad feelings at all.

It’s primarily light activity - walking, house chores, mowing the lawn - and eating. Always at the 30 - 45min point.


My stools are most always loose, either loose or diarrhea.

Is this related to the pre-diabets or IBS?
Hey, good morning. I was doing fine on low carb, didn't have the usual ibs issues, until I upped the sweetener intake. (I hadn't even realised I did that, but I was drinking a lot more tea and diet coke). Sweetener kills off gut bacteria, so should you have changed your diet to include more of that, that could be the cause. I'm on the app so I can't see your full profile, but metformin can cause the same issues. (Some prediabetics get it to avoid full blown diabetes) No idea if any of this helps, but those were the first that came to mind. (Also, grapes? High sugar content. And some bowels aren't happy with those either. Not sure if it's the skins or the pits though that can cause trouble.). In any case, I hope you feel better soon!!!! Know what it's like, wouldn't wish it on anyone, ever!
 

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My IBS or whatever it is (for me) can be linked to fibromyalgia I just read yesterday. Not a side affect but IBS inflammation of intestines and painful as of muscle and ligaments in fibromyalgia.
On stopping metformin my diarrhea reduced but nothing else. Now I have added more veg to my diet I'm having diarrhea again with my 800cals. Great for weight loss but only on none inflammed days. I weigh more due to inflammation and stomach bloating so counter productive.
Your post has reminded me that I no longer get a water bed effect swollen stomach. I get swollen ankles in walking now instead. Which I will have to mention to my GP due to my heart investigations last year. I was prescribed a stronger betablocker and furosemide to reduce water retention. The tablet only works if I'm able to take it. Its not practical at times but lately far more practical since 5yr old went into mainstream school. Stress from dealing with his autism spectrum can affect me quite alot. Especially if he wakes through the night with night terrors or a cold. It's so traumatic for him and a very loud aggressive experience. I'm nearly 50yrs old and I'm feeling my age.
IBS isn't commonly diagnosed in middle age but in young or elderly. Apparently.
What have you been told about IBS?
 

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I also had some really bad bloating and diarrhoea for a few months . I stopped all the Coke Zero and Splenda I was taking a couple of weeks ago and started eating some more fibre and touch wood it seems to have gone away . I say gone away , it’s early days yet but I feel a lot better
 
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A KILLER IN YOUR FRIDGE

SWEET POISON..A MUST READ !!!

In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick She had stomach spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking was a major chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed; she was in so much pain.

By March 2002, she had undergone several tissue and muscle biopsies and was on 24 various prescription medications. The doctors could not determine what was wrong with her. She was in so much pain, and so sick she just knew she was dying.

She put her house, bank accounts, life insurance, etc., in her oldest daughter's name, and made sure that her younger children were to be taken care of.

She also wanted her last hooray, so she planned a trip to Florida (basically in a wheelchair) for March 22nd.

On March 19, I called her to ask how her most recent tests went, and she said they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe she had MS.

I recalled an article a friend of mine e-mailed to me and I asked my sister if she drank diet soda? She told me that she did. As a matter of fact, she was getting ready to crack one open that moment.

I told her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet soda! I e-mailed her an article my friend, a lawyer, had sent. My sister called me within 32 hours after our phone conversation and told me she had stopped drinking the diet soda AND she could walk! The muscle spasms went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but, she sure felt a lot better.

She told me she was going to her doctor with this article and would call me when she got home.

Well, she called me, and said her doctor was amazed! He is going to call all of his MS patients to find out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of any kind. In a nutshell, she was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the diet soda.. and literally dying a slow and miserable death

When she got to Florida March 22, all she had to take was one pill, and that was a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to a complete recovery. And she is walking! No wheelchair! This article saved her life.If it says 'SUGAR FREE' on the label; DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on 'ASPARTAME,' marketed as'Nutra Sweet,' 'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.'In the keynote address by the EPA, it was announced that in the United States in 2001 there is an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly what toxin was causing this to be rampant. I stood up and said that I was there to lecture on exactly that subject.

I will explain why Aspartame is so dangerous: When the temperature of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants. The methanol toxicity mimics, among other conditions, multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus.

Many people were being diagnosed in error. Although multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, Methanol toxicity is!

Systemic lupus has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially with Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers.The victim usually does not know that the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its use; irritating the lupus to such a degree that it may become a life-threatening condition. We have seen patients with systemic lupus become asymptotic, once taken off diet sodas.

In cases of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, most of the symptoms disappear. We've seen many cases where vision loss returned and hearing loss improved markedly.

This also applies to cases of tinnitus and fibromyalgia. During a lecture, I said, 'If you are using ASPARTAME (Nutra Sweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting, pains, numbness in your legs,
Cramps,
Vertigo,
Dizziness,
Headaches,
Tinnitus,
Joint pain,
Unexplainable depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speech, blurred vision, or memory loss you probably have ASPARTAME poisoning!' People were jumping up during the lecture saying,'I have some of these symptoms. Is it reversible?'

Yes!
Yes!
Yes!
STOP drinking diet sodas and be alert for Aspartame on food labels! Many products are fortified with it! This is a serious problem. Dr. Espart (one of my speakers) remarked that so many people seem to be symptomatic for MS and during his recent visit to a hospice; a nurse stated that six of her friends, who were heavy Diet Coke addicts, had all been diagnosed with MS. This is beyond coincidence!

Diet soda is NOT a diet product! It is a chemically altered, multiple SODIUM (salt) and ASPARTAME containing product that actually makes you crave carbohydrates.

It is far more likely to make you GAIN weight!

These products also contain formaldehyde, which stores in the fat cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Formaldehyde is an absolute toxin and is used primarily to preserve 'tissue specimens.'

Many products we use every day contain this chemical but we SHOULD NOT store it IN our body!

Dr. H. J. Roberts stated in his lectures that once free of the 'diet products' and with no significant increase in exercise; his patients lost an average of 19 pounds over a trial period.Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics. We found that some physicians, who believed that they had a patient with retinopathy, in fact, had symptoms caused by Aspartame. The Aspartame drives the blood sugar out of control. Thus diabetics may suffer acute memory loss due to the fact that aspartic acid and phenylalanine are NEUROTOXIC when taken without the other amino acids necessary for a good balance.

Treating diabetes is all about BALANCE.. Especially with diabetics, the Aspartame passes the blood/brain barrier and it then deteriorates the neurons of the brain; causing various levels of brain damage, Seizures, Depression, Manic depression, Panic attacks, Uncontrollable anger and rage.Consumption of Aspartame causes these same symptoms in non-diabetics as well. Documentation and observation also reveal that thousands of children diagnosed with ADD and ADHD have had complete turnarounds in their behavior when these chemicals have been removed from their diet.

So called 'behavior modification prescription drugs' (Ritalin and others) are no longer needed.Truth be told, they were never NEEDED in the first place!Most of these children were being 'poisoned' on a daily basis with the very foods that were 'better for them than sugar.'It is also suspected that the Aspartame in thousands of pallets of diet Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting in the Gulf War, may be partially to blame for the well-known Gulf War Syndrome.

Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects, i.e. mental retardation, if taken at the time of conception and during early pregnancy. Children are especially at risk for neurological disorders and should NEVER be given artificial sweeteners.

There are many different case histories to relate of children suffering grand mal seizures and other neurological disturbances talking about a plague of neurological diseases directly caused by the use of this deadly poison.'

Herein lies the problem: There were Congressional Hearings when Aspartame was included in 100 different products and strong objection was made concerning its use. Since this initial hearing, there have been two subsequent hearings, and still nothing has been done. The drug and chemical lobbies have very deep pockets.

Sadly, MONSANTO'S patent on Aspartame has EXPIRED! There are now over 5,000 products on the market that contain this deadly chemical and there will be thousands more introduced. Everybody wants a 'piece of the Aspartame pie.'I assure you that MONSANTO, the creator of Aspartame, knows how deadly it is.

And isn't it ironic that MONSANTO funds, among others, the American Diabetes Association, the American Dietetic Association and the Conference of the American College of Physicians?

This has been recently exposed in the New York Times. These [organizations] cannot criticize any additives or convey their link to MONSANTO because they take money from the food industry and are required to endorse their products.Senator Howard Metzenbaum wrote and presented a bill that would require label warnings on products containing Aspartame, especially regarding pregnant women, children and infants.

The bill would also institute independent studies on the known dangers and the problems existing in the general population regarding seizures, changes in brain chemistry, neurological changes and behavioural symptoms.
The bill was killed.It is known that the powerful drug and chemical lobbies are responsible for this, letting loose the hounds of disease and death on an unsuspecting and uninformed public. Well, you're informed now!

Please print this out and/or e-mail to your family and friends.
 

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This myth and variations of it have been bouncing around the web for a couple of decades.
 
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