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Bread

AdamJames said:
You may have missed the question, but it was about bread.

Forgive the antsy response, but I've noticed that it's all too easy to start a thread on a subject here that has absolutely nothing to do with VLCHF eating, and people feel happy to ignore the theme/question of the thread and instead talk about VLCHF eating. There are plenty of threads to do that in. This one is about bread.

The OP clearly has the intelligence to realise that eating carbs isn't ideal for a Type 2 diabetic, hence the question they asked about bread.
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I think that giving alternative breakfast foods is quite legitimate on a thread discussing breakfast foods especially when the OP asked for
michaelf said:
what I could safely eat after this diagnosis
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Eggs and bacon is a perfectly good alternative.

For someone recently diagnosed whether they are intelligent or not a suggestion for a good food alternative is extremely useful.
 
bulkbiker said:
I think that giving alternative breakfast foods is quite legitimate on a thread discussing breakfast foods especially when the OP asked for


Eggs and bacon is a perfectly good alternative.

For someone recently diagnosed whether they are intelligent or not a suggestion for a good food alternative is extremely useful.
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I'm going to PM you as well.
 
michaelf said:
Please forgive my ignorance (2 days from pre diabetes diagnosis) but can anyone give me guidance about my favourite food(bread) and what I could safely eat after this diagnosis
From what I have read it seems to be absoloutely forbidden, however I know that it would be an absoloute downer to abstain permanently and I just don't think I could manage without it
I am depressed enough with this out of the blue diagnosis and thoroughly miserable missing my 3 slices of toast and marmalade breakfast after only 2 days
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Hi Michael
I used to be a bread fiend... three years living in France I was eating 2 baguettes a day with croissants/pain au chocolat/pain au raisins delete as was available at the local boulangerie
Guess what... I ended up 23 stone with Type 2 diabetes.
I now look on those food types as pure poison to my body and so don't have them any more. After a few weeks of cutting them out I don't miss them at all and in fact don't even have breakfast any more just a coffee with double cream. It sounds awful but really its just stodge and usually a means of getting something nice (like butter) into your mouth. As you have pre-diabetes you may get away with being less strict than I am but... processed carbs will likely have a bad effect on your blood sugar levels so won't help you in any way. Best avoided.
 
michaelf said:
Please forgive my ignorance (2 days from pre diabetes diagnosis) but can anyone give me guidance about my favourite food(bread) and what I could safely eat after this diagnosis
From what I have read it seems to be absoloutely forbidden, however I know that it would be an absoloute downer to abstain permanently and I just don't think I could manage without it
I am depressed enough with this out of the blue diagnosis and thoroughly miserable missing my 3 slices of toast and marmalade breakfast after only 2 days
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I apologise for jumping on posts which suggest not eating bread at all; they are of course sensible suggestions which may make you much healthier and I'd possibly misunderstood the scope of your question.

However if you decide to still have it occasionally, one other thought which I don't think has been mentioned yet:

While adding marmalade to bread is almost certain to "make it worse" for a diabetic, adding other things seems to "make it better" for me and some other people. There have been a few times I've added scrambled eggs to toast and found the 2 hour readings to be much lower than with just the toast alone; I've taken a 3 hour reading to see if the eggs had just slowed down the spike but it was also lowering. Some sources suggest adding protein helps, others fat.
 
I think it's hovis they have brought out a lower carb bread it's in a blue wrapping seen it advertised on a game I was playing on my mobile ain't seen it in the shops yet
 
My BS is actually lower if I have jam on 2 slices of toast compared to if I have 2 eggs and 2 toast. That's what makes diabetes interesting, we are all different, for me too much protein is a no. Hopefully the OP manages to get a meter to test which will help them greatly.
 
Pinkorchid said:
A lot here including my T2 husband have Bergen Linseed and Soya sliced bread it is low carb and most supermarkets do it. The slices are full size unlike the other low carb bread like Livlife and Hilo which are tiny
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3 slices of livlife is less carbs than 1 slice of burgen. They are smaller slices but the the carbs per 100g is also much less 26.9g compared to 14.6g.
 
As mentioned, Livlife is lovely and 3.8g a slice but it is tiny. I also like Burgen or Vogels Soya and Linseed. Neither spike me particularly. I saw a Hovis multi-seed bread at lunchtime today which looked nice and was 9g carbs a slice.
 
michaelf said:
Please forgive my ignorance (2 days from pre diabetes diagnosis) but can anyone give me guidance about my favourite food(bread) and what I could safely eat after this diagnosis
From what I have read it seems to be absoloutely forbidden, however I know that it would be an absoloute downer to abstain permanently and I just don't think I could manage without it
I am depressed enough with this out of the blue diagnosis and thoroughly miserable missing my 3 slices of toast and marmalade breakfast after only 2 days
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@michaelf

Consider yourself blessed. Some of us here had no clue we were near the diabetic threshold before becoming fully signed up members of the Type 2 Diabetic club.

I used to eat what we in the US call "Thomas muffins" . I'd have them toasted with lashings of butter and Rose's lemon & lime marmalade. Little did I realize at the time that I was slowly poisoning my body.

I've looked for your stats on your profile page and you've none listed. Without wishing to be personal do you know your current BMI? Most people on the forum are willing to help but it helps us if you can tell us a bit more to help you out (& maybe prevent you becoming diabetic)..
 
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