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Cake sale

So back to the part of the question of what would they be fund raising for? To buy syringes?

I usually associate fund raising with charities (maybe schools or sports teams) not businesses. A business sells a product or a service to the consumer. As a patient I’m not buying their services although the nhs may be. Am I just a by product of the surgery/nhs purchase?
 
My surgery used to offer podiatry services from their practice. They also offer dermatology service . Neither of these are NHS funded. They also provide support to families outside the pure medical contract so they are in effect supporting charities, and these extra curicullar activities require funding. They also provide accommodation to a pharmacy on their premises. I am not sure if NHS funds the PPG.
 

Our surgery fundraises for MacMillan and the local Air Ambulance. Unfortunately, the air ambulance doesn't receive government funding, or anything from the lottery, so depends on donations from as many sources as possible.

https://theairambulanceservice.org.uk/your-local-air-ambulance/

Our local DUK group had a presentation from the Air Ambulance. Their work is quite mind blowing.
 

A PPG is now part of their contract.
 
So raising funds on behalf of a third party charity (albeit a health related one). That makes sense
 
Am I correct in thinking that they aren't required to publish their balance sheets or profit and loss numbers?
The Companies House website doesn't seem to have any info about my local mob..
 
Ah thanks for that.. always wondered why..

So is there no way of finding out how much they make out of us?
I don't think there will be many (if any) listed in Forbes. I would estimate their salaries to be similar to that of a Head Teacher like £80k-£100k. None of the ones I know socially lives in opulence or has a lavish lifestyle. GP's tend to work on past NRD, unless on grounds of ill health. Not one I knew wore a Rolex or drove a Porche. They seem comfortably well off.

Where they may make a small fortune is in what is called Goodwill, which is a share of the proceeds when a practice is sold on or their share in the partnership is terminated if the practive is dissolved. possibly on the death of a founder, And of course those in private practice benefit from their activities, such as in Harley St or Spire Health or Nuffield.
 
No hate here as we all know tea (and cake) are the currency of goodwill in this country. We can choose to have our cake and not eat it but I also like the idea of somebody making a healthier version so as not to trigger the sugar addicts.
 
My info is around ten years old so a bit out-of-date but for a whole time equivalent GP we used to estimate that yearly income from NHS sources via the practice was in the region of £105,000. Of course there are many other ways for doctors to earn a bit more and many do - working in out of hours, for example. Working out income and value gets a bit more complicated with contractor GPs where the partnership owns the practice and often the land and buildings, and frequently employs other GPs.

Annual salary for a wte GP was indeed in the £70-£80k range up to the introduction of the new GP contract in 2003/4 - after which earnings rose considerably. As you say, many GPs are not primarily motivated by money so many took the opportunity to reduce their working hours, which led to a different set of problems.
 
Am I correct in thinking that they aren't required to publish their balance sheets or profit and loss numbers?
The Companies House website doesn't seem to have any info about my local mob..

They are required to publish some information about their earnings, ie GP net earnings, it's usually hidden somewhere on the surgery website. The NHS does collect more data but I think that is only published in aggregate statistics.
 
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