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Can diabetes be cured completely ???

I don't believe there is a cure as yet unless you're at the pre-diabetic stage where there is still a chance to turn things around through lifestyle changes,exercise and lowering the starchy carbs-I have a good HbA1c -A level that would suggest non diabetic but if I went back to my old lifestyle it would be back into double figures but I'm happy enough to be well controlled on my dietary regime and small amount of insulin as I see no reason to be at any more risk of complications than a non diabetic provided I avoid the starch and junk food which I'm more than happy to do.:)
 
people believe roy when he said that its progressive, but noone believe him when he found out that it could be reverse. i would rather believe that there is hope in reversal.i starts to believe that by declaring that diabetes is irreversible means company can make money off you forever.
 
Mongoose39uk said:
So PROFESSOR Taylor is wrong?

He quite clearly says cured. My GP says cured. So long as you keep the weight under control once you are cured. According to people who are genuinely qualified.
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Great posting !
Hopefully others can inform themselves from your research, here is a link you may also find informative, from Ireland, showing how a top endocrinologist explains why true reversal of type 2 is possible and how it is attainable.
Prof Gerald H Tomkin of the Diabetes Institute of Ireland examines how he can now tell many of this patients that weight reduction and exercise may lead to the reversal of their diabetes through recovery of their beta cells.
http://www.imt.ie/clinical/2012/07/type-2-diabetes-—-is-it-a-disease-of-the-fat-cell.html
 
i think it is difficult for this group of experts to challenge the huge pharma firm who rather it remain in the old literature. so that they could sell you tons over tons of medication. followed by even pricer medication eventually when your kidneys and liver could not cope with the medication. you go for costly treatment.

then there are the insurance company, once you got the illness, they will try to increase your premium. some insurer cut back on the compensation once you suffer complications.

i spoke to a few different doctor in regards to diabetes. some said that they already knew that the disease could be reverse but not sure till which extend.

then there is the human right loopholes which says that if food are available, people shall be given the rights to consume. therefore the medical field shall not refrain you from certain food. they would let you eat as much as you wants. but they will give you medication which are going to cost you more.
 
trotskyite said:
Great posting !
Hopefully others can inform themselves from your research, here is a link you may also find informative, from Ireland, showing how a top endocrinologist explains why true reversal of type 2 is possible and how it is attainable.
Prof Gerald H Tomkin of the Diabetes Institute of Ireland examines how he can now tell many of this patients that weight reduction and exercise may lead to the reversal of their diabetes through recovery of their beta cells.
http://www.imt.ie/clinical/2012/07/type-2-diabetes-—-is-it-a-disease-of-the-fat-cell.html
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Even though I am now symptom free with Hba1c well within the normal range etc. Even my cholesterol and triglycerides are better than they have ever been. I don't believe this will work for everyone. It seems that lowering of the visceral fat is the key. So for me the booze is pretty much gone along with a shed load of weight. it seems for some of us "diabetes" is a symptom.

At the end of the day it is whatever works for you. I have no issue with popping pills or if you can tolerate LCHF and that is what you want to do go for it. The weight loss, loosing the booze (and fags) and a massive increase in exercise works for me. It costs time though.

For me being a fat beer monster seems to have been the problem.

I don't think anyone knows how many this would work for yet or how many would be willing to. I do know my GP has before and after pictures of the ones on his books who are now "reversed"its not one or two it is quite a few but not enough to stop him thinking of taking early retirement because he is sick of wasting his time with people who won't listen and just carry on eating junk.
 
Just one thing, when @Andy12345 suggests running a marathon after a 30 year break is a good idea. Remember why you stopped doing them the last time. Last weeks 22 mile training run flaming well hurt ;)

When he says go parkrun listen to him, he is a star.
 
Hi Mongoose

Where have you been?

Is the result that those of us 'cured' or reversed can now eat a family size bar of chocolate and after 2 hours have good results?

What I have found is that because my blood results are good I find myself thinking 'oh I can have some of that' or 'one wont matter' - which is the attitude that got me diabetes in the first place
I lost weight but now clothes are getting tighter.
For me I found the first part easy, I enjoyed havig a goal, the maintenance I am finding harder
 
carraway said:
Hi Mongoose

Where have you been?

Is the result that those of us 'cured' or reversed can now eat a family size bar of chocolate and after 2 hours have good results?

What I have found is that because my blood results are good I find myself thinking 'oh I can have some of that' or 'one wont matter' - which is the attitude that got me diabetes in the first place
I lost weight but now clothes are getting tighter.
For me I found the first part easy, I enjoyed havig a goal, the maintenance I am finding harder
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Where have I been.... Andys fault all this running. Being a little more honest after all the c88p with a few people trying to ruin this brilliant resource I got a bit fed up with it.

Now where is that Southport GP thread I want a read (after a 10 mile run)

Erm yes I have been a bad boy and done the family size bar of chocolate and been 6.2, 2 hours after. I really wouldn't recommend it though. Maintain the weight is a pig for me, I love food in many forms. I really don't miss the fags and booze and for anyone who knows me that would be a hell of a shock. I suspect two pints would have me rat ar88ed now.
 
Mongoose39uk said:
So long as you keep the weight under control once you are cured.
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That is the key point if you have had diabetes and appear to have reversed it. Your tipping point back into a diabetic state is unknown so vigilance is required. But, I would rather be in my current situation than the shocking state I was in before I got diabetes. I am fitter and healthier now and do more things and not tucking into a packet of biscuits is a small price to pay for a more active lifestyle.
 
carraway said:
Is the result that those of us 'cured' or reversed can now eat a family size bar of chocolate and after 2 hours have good results?

What I have found is that because my blood results are good I find myself thinking 'oh I can have some of that' or 'one wont matter' - which is the attitude that got me diabetes in the first place
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Yes, It is an area best approached with caution. Yes, I can eat chocolates, or biscuits and still have normal results. Something is working again

But, there is permanent damage and my beta cells ain't what they used to be.

I had a slow puncture and things were getting worse. I've patched it up and the pressure is now steady. But without a new part, I best take things steady.

On the plus side though, if at some function or 'do', I don't have to worry about sticking to my usual regime, as long as my usual regime does remain the usual one.
 
I'm really struggling to keep control of my HBA1C, its really high and its been that way for quite a while, but it never goes down.

I would really appreciate it if you could help me control it better, so I'm not always admitted with DKA.
 
I'm really struggling to keep control of my HBA1C, its really high and its been that way for quite a while, but it never goes down.

I would really appreciate it if you could help me control it better, so I'm not always admitted with DKA.
 
Littlewoods16 said:
I'm really struggling to keep control of my HBA1C, its really high and its been that way for quite a while, but it never goes down.

I would really appreciate it if you could help me control it better, so I'm not always admitted with DKA.
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High fasting blood sugar is correlated to liver fat and your genetic susceptibility to this . Lack of first phase insulin response to food is related to pancreas fat. Both conditions combine in susceptible people to raise Hba1c to diabetic levels over time. Loss of overall fat will make your Hba1c substantially better if you have true type 2 diabetes. This can be achieved by any hypo-caloric diet over time. For most with a BMI in the obese level a loss of 20% of body mass has been shown to reverse the condition due to critical mass of beta cells in the pancreas remaining healthy and starting to function again combining with the lowering of insulin resistance in the liver. Most however would not achieve this weight loss and keep it off for life therefore you may wish to combine with a lower carb diet which will give you good control over your figures.
Lifestyle change featuring exercise and eating non-processed foods are essential for long term health, it's no good reversing your diabetes then going back to over-eating junk as it will come straight back in the form of visceral fat. For this reason some may contradict that reversal is achievable however this is just semantics, many are born with the gene for type 2 but will never get it as they are healthy and they are not called diabetic from birth. Maybe in the future they will?
Hope that helps. I'm sure others will also have their opinions :)
 
There is no treatment for diabetes. but can be managed by proper diet and exercise. Add more nutrition foods in your diet plan.
 
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