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Carbageddon

Redsnapper

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Just been watchin some late nite TV.For some reason insomnia central. But the ads : Jacobs Cream Crackers, McDonalds,Kinder sweeties,Walkers crisps.So roughly 50% of the ads for high carb foods.

Also I have noticed recently to my dismay that my daughter and all her friends are obsessed with Domino's pizza.Fine you say but barbecue pizza?? This is a normal pizza base (carbtastic) but instead of a tomato sauce it is a sweet barbecue sauce that is spread on the pizza base.Obviously a fructose frenzy.Toppings seem to include chicken with even more barbecue related seasonings and caramelised onions,oh not forgetting a few bits of green pepper!! Nothing else will do,and I have tried.
Additionally Domino's cookies and any type of "cookie dough " ice cream are essential.
My daughters are not overweight but I cannot reconcile the pressure they are put under, especially with online promotion and endorsement of these products by incredibly influential bloggers,with healthy eating.If you are not familiar with this kind of thing,just go online and look up Zoella.What she says about anything goes,costs me a fortune.When I was a kid all I had to worry about was having the right trainers.I wish.
Anyway back to the point, I do not want to be a crushing bore with my kids, but can't help feeling we are careering into a dietary disaster.
Sorry late nite rant over.
 
Speaking of which, I went to Micky D's for lunch today and from the Wikipedia history of MacDonald's would like to remind you that Ronald MacDonald had his genesis in Washington, DC in 1963. Since this will give you the age of my downfall concerning the golden arches, I will only relate what I ate there, not the blood sugar demise that resulted

1. A double burger with cheese, that cheese being some kind of almost liquidized artificial stuff and also sporting a piece of a pickle.
2. Something called fried mozzarella sticks which had such a vile outer coating that I scraped it off and only ate its cheese interior after stuffing it into the bun of double burger above.
3. A side salad with Balsamic dressing which I ate by throwing away the dressing packet and stuffing the various lettuces and the two tiny tomatoes into same double burger under one of the bun halves
4. Small fries which were less salty, less greasy and way more tepid in temperature than I recall from my last visit a year ago (Hey, I'm American and this place is in my DNA so I have to make the annueal pilgrimmage)

Because I am ashamed of my annual pilgrimage, I did not test. I do not want to know. I realize my sin and the error of my ways and I heartily repent

;)
I say get thee to the KFC!! I can tolerate three pieces of original recipe chicken and a diet soda.But you gotta make double sure they give you a diet drink.I have tested before and after and it,s ok.As far as I can work out the only carbs are in the secret recipe coating.You know the one with the secret ingredient that makes you crave it fortnightly!
 
Just been watchin some late nite TV.For some reason insomnia central. But the ads : Jacobs Cream Crackers, McDonalds,Kinder sweeties,Walkers crisps.So roughly 50% of the ads for high carb foods.
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Anyway back to the point, I do not want to be a crushing bore with my kids, but can't help feeling we are careering into a dietary disaster.
Sorry late nite rant over.

I think we are into dietary disaster area already! Many people regard all those foods that are advertised and sold in fast food places as 'normal' food though if they really think about it, they might be slightly 'naughty' stuff, but every day stuff anyway.
:rolleyes: And if they happen to add to all that carb laden processed stuff a 'lettuce' leaf or piece of fruit :eek:...that's is their 'healthy' stuff done and sorted, feeling :angelic: again. Honestly.....:rolleyes:......it is not mockery, but something that I have witnessed so many times!
When I was a kid.....we were not eating crisp and sweet and chockies and bickies as 'food'..they were occasional treats...for special occasions only.....and how we appreciated every little bit we had.
It wasn't because mum and dad couldn't afford for more, it just wasn't done. Birthday parties or any other celebrations were big deal because you got something 'special' to eat.
When we got little older and commercial pressures started push all that stuff to everybody's plate more...many parents had set 'sweet day' for their kids. One day a week you were allowed to eat sweets that you were either given and you had saved them for that day and/or you used your own pocket money to buy them...mum and dad would buy bottle of 'pop' that you didn't get every day neither. All those restriction were quite norm in my childhood...almost everybody had them. And there wasn't many 'big kids' around..if you were, you really stood out...and being 'big' those days were more of 'normal' in today's standards.
What is horrid to think about...that wasn't that long ago neither...I am 70's child :D
 
Hi. Yes, we are already in the disaster area and have been for a few years. The majority of supermarket food is high-carb junk so we now focus on very few areas and products. At least McD and KFC have all the ingredients listed on the back of the tray sheet. In McD the doughnut has fewer carbs than a burger! All we can do is constantly harang the press/TV when they put out food industry funded articles. I often email national organisations that put out misleading food information.
 
If you test your blood sugar how about having some of this pizza with your daughter and then testing after an hour or so to show the spike this causes. I don't know how well you control your levels but this may have an effect. Failing that see if you can "borrow" a type 1 and then see if they will do the same. Your daughter may understand then the impact that high carb and sugary food really has on a body and how much **** you are making your pancreas deal with when you eat it.

I did this a few years ago with a friend of mine when we were down the pub. He asked me why I was injecting after "just a small bag of crisps" and a beer. He said "Surely it doesn't make that much difference. So I tested my blood which was about 6 at the time and then produced to drink a few pints of ale and eat a few bags of crisps without taking insulin. At the end of the night my blood sugar levels were in the low 20's a few hours later. I then explained to him that when I was first diagnosed my levels were in the high twenties and I had to spend a week in hospital. He was absolutely gob smacked and said it gave him a real insight into how sensitive to abuse our bodies can be with carbs and sugar.
 
KFC was across the street from where I sinned at Micky D's but it is run by Pakistanis who don't quite put the Kentucky flavor into the mix. The carbs are in the dredging with flour as part of the frying process but original recipe is actually partly done in a pressure cooker. It has so much fat that the fat kills off the carbs. Most of the ingredients in the spice mix are easy to figure out except the cayenne which is milder than chili pepper

Here is the Colonel making some

Wow.Is that the real Colonel?? I did note that this must have been before elf and safety ie no hair net.Not sure how I would like a silvery hair in my chicken coating.Suppose you would have to frame it and put it on the wall! Interesting video though, I think they just fry it in a packet coating here in the UK.So it is probably a pale imitation of the real thing.But my meter likes it, meaning at least one type of fast food is available when I am on the run.
 
I think we are into dietary disaster area already! Many people regard all those foods that are advertised and sold in fast food places as 'normal' food though if they really think about it, they might be slightly 'naughty' stuff, but every day stuff anyway.
:rolleyes: And if they happen to add to all that carb laden processed stuff a 'lettuce' leaf or piece of fruit :eek:...that's is their 'healthy' stuff done and sorted, feeling :angelic: again. Honestly.....:rolleyes:......it is not mockery, but something that I have witnessed so many times!
When I was a kid.....we were not eating crisp and sweet and chockies and bickies as 'food'..they were occasional treats...for special occasions only.....and how we appreciated every little bit we had.
It wasn't because mum and dad couldn't afford for more, it just wasn't done. Birthday parties or any other celebrations were big deal because you got something 'special' to eat.
When we got little older and commercial pressures started push all that stuff to everybody's plate more...many parents had set 'sweet day' for their kids. One day a week you were allowed to eat sweets that you were either given and you had saved them for that day and/or you used your own pocket money to buy them...mum and dad would buy bottle of 'pop' that you didn't get every day neither. All those restriction were quite norm in my childhood...almost everybody had them. And there wasn't many 'big kids' around..if you were, you really stood out...and being 'big' those days were more of 'normal' in today's standards.
What is horrid to think about...that wasn't that long ago neither...I am 70's child :D
You have hit the nail on the head there,that was exactly my experience too.What I can't understand is that up here in Scotland a lot of money has been spent on healthy meals and snacks at school.There are restrictions on what types of drinks can be stocked too.Great for primary kids.But in most secondary schools the kids just walk out at lunchtime to the chippy,Chinese takeaway,burger van or supermarket .Typically a Starbucks ice coffee drink and a wrap from supermarket,and probably chocolate and sweets I am not told about.
There is such a long way to go.Recently Krispy Kreme opened their first proper outlet north of the border.This resulted in a queue for the drive thru over half a mile long,which extended on to the main Glasgow to Edinburgh motorway,causing traffic chaos.People were physically fighting in the road.It needed police supervision.Who would have thought us Scots go nuts for deep fried food!!!
 
You have hit the nail on the head there,that was exactly my experience too.What I can't understand is that up here in Scotland a lot of money has been spent on healthy meals and snacks at school.There are restrictions on what types of drinks can be stocked too.Great for primary kids.But in most secondary schools the kids just walk out at lunchtime to the chippy,Chinese takeaway,burger van or supermarket .Typically a Starbucks ice coffee drink and a wrap from supermarket,and probably chocolate and sweets I am not told about.
There is such a long way to go.Recently Krispy Kreme opened their first proper outlet north of the border.This resulted in a queue for the drive thru over half a mile long,which extended on to the main Glasgow to Edinburgh motorway,causing traffic chaos.People were physically fighting in the road.It needed police supervision.Who would have thought us Scots go nuts for deep fried food!!!

When my eldest was at secondary school they did exactly the same, replaced the sweets & sugary drink in the vending machines with healthy alternatives so the kids went out of school for their snacks, there was also a black market economy going on in the school where some kids where buying sweets in bulk and selling them on at break-times.
 
Do they have deep fried Haggis .
Yip in practically every chip shop,surprisingly good if well made.Not very healthy tho......due to lots of oatmeal and therefore carbs. :-p
 
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I'm with you on that,and the neeps and tattie are out too!!! Although I will admit I never have liked neeps and if we are at home it was haggis,mashed potato and baked beans.Somehow I can't see this catchin on at a Burns supper.
Maybe someone somewhere does a low carb haggis with more meat and less oatmeal?
 
I have never eaten a McDonald's burger, I went in one morning, it was the only place open, had been travelling ordered an egg Mcmuffin, Dave and myself still talk about this, I think the egg was cooked an hour before opening, it was bouncy, I ate the muffin which was so dry. That was enough to put me off for life, I don't eat chicken so no KFC.
I have eaten a 5 guys burger, which was nice but expensive.
I have eaten a deep fried pizza, just because I couldn't believe they actually deep fried it, the joys of a Scottish chippy, salt n sauce
 
I remember the rare tangerine at Christmas in the stocking, the one single chocolate in a pretty wrapper. We are now used to incredible quantities
I used to get a lump of coal in mine. Very indegestible ! One year my stocking had a Mr potato Head, but the potato tasted foul. [LOL]. Wonder what the server will think of my use of square brackets? Good point about those items being special and rare in our (my?) youth. i remember Sugar Rationing......
 
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