Carnivore diet

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Hello RHs, did any one tried Carnivore diet? I am an RH for years but recently I get very high spikes before the dips. I get also dips even with green vegetables. I tried Carnivore diet but could never cross the 1 week- too low energy and feeling S. I tried to combine it with dairy products to supply carbs, but again no. Any experience?
 

MissMuffett

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I’m sort of ketovore, I don’t eat many veg (occasionally cauliflower rice) and most of my meals are carnivore. But my downfall are berries and yogurt and I do eat homemade biscuits made from almond flour. And I’m not giving up coffee with cream for any money :p
 
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I’m sort of ketovore, I don’t eat many veg (occasionally cauliflower rice) and most of my meals are carnivore. But my downfall are berries and yogurt and I do eat homemade biscuits made from almond flour. And I’m not giving up coffee with cream for any money :p

How is your energy level? Can you do stuff? I am talking about work ( i have an office job but needs concentration), going supermarket etc and the mood?
 
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And your hunger? I am constantly hungry...
I think if you are still hungry you probably aren't eating enough fat? I know that other carnivores here have fatty meats, the skin from roast chicken etc.

It is usual to feel tired and a bit off the first week or two when cutting carbs drastically - that's keto flu and it does go away. I felt like I was having a hypo a few times on low carb in the first weeks but my blood tests showed I was only getting into the normal BG levels.
 

MissMuffett

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How is your energy level? Can you do stuff? I am talking about work ( i have an office job but needs concentration), going supermarket etc and the mood?
At the beginning I was tired and had a headache for a few days but I made sure I added electrolytes to a glass of water everyday and it went away as my body adjusted. As @TriciaWs said you have to make sure you’re eating enough fat. Fatty cuts of meat, butter, eggs. If I do feel hungry, which isn’t often, I eat cheese! Energy improved after a couple of weeks and mood definitely better
 

Lamont D

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I do not have diabetes
Hello RHs, did any one tried Carnivore diet? I am an RH for years but recently I get very high spikes before the dips. I get also dips even with green vegetables. I tried Carnivore diet but could never cross the 1 week- too low energy and feeling S. I tried to combine it with dairy products to supply carbs, but again no. Any experience?
I do have an odd meal that is just meat, but most of mine have above ground vegetables as a side salad. Saturated fats are so important for us RH ers. It not only gives you the benefits of them but also satiety, to get rid of them hunger/cravings you experience. I cannot eat cooked veg, never have, never will. Dairy will give you good fats, but again for me, I am dairy intolerant. As it seems I am intolerant to vegetable oils, all sugar, soya, and so on!
You have said, you need to supply carbs.
Do you mean that, needing carbs for your health? Or please explain.
Because, that is not true, you don't need to eat carbs, Your body will give you any glucose you need, without having to have carbs.
Controlled blood glucose levels in and around normal levels range, is the best advice I can give.
With RH, you don't have a very good first phase insulin response, and too many carbs, (very small amount) will trigger high blood glucose levels, which your body will 'react ' with an overshoot of insulin which will put you into hypoglycaemia. Not having the carbs, will stop the reaction.
Keep asking.
Best wishes.
 
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I do have an odd meal that is just meat, but most of mine have above ground vegetables as a side salad. Saturated fats are so important for us RH ers. It not only gives you the benefits of them but also satiety, to get rid of them hunger/cravings you experience. I cannot eat cooked veg, never have, never will. Dairy will give you good fats, but again for me, I am dairy intolerant. As it seems I am intolerant to vegetable oils, all sugar, soya, and so on!
You have said, you need to supply carbs.
Do you mean that, needing carbs for your health? Or please explain.
Because, that is not true, you don't need to eat carbs, Your body will give you any glucose you need, without having to have carbs.
Controlled blood glucose levels in and around normal levels range, is the best advice I can give.
With RH, you don't have a very good first phase insulin response, and too many carbs, (very small amount) will trigger high blood glucose levels, which your body will 'react ' with an overshoot of insulin which will put you into hypoglycaemia. Not having the carbs, will stop the reaction.
Keep asking.
Best wishes.

I mean when I have low energy I think is because I need to supply carbs. But from all the replies. It seems I must pass an adaptation phase to carnivore. Thanks!!
 

Lamont D

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The reason I know about the carbs situation was explained to me by my specialist endocrinologist who diagnosed me. I had always been told by every doctor etc. Nutritionists, even another endo, that I needed carbs for energy. And for my brain function.
But what happens when you can't eat or get carbs to eat. Or like me, totally intolerant to carbs and sugars?
I proved to my end is satisfaction that my brain function and all that occurs within is a lot healthier without carbs. And the amount of glucose I do need is minimal and provided from natural bodily sources.
And my energy levels are brilliant without carbs!
Yes, there is a period of change but once you are fat adapted, in keto, you should start feeling better, the symptoms diminish, energy levels are higher and become less tired, and even sleep better!