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Type 2 Chart

shaddy4616

shaddy4616

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Hi , please could someone show me a chart with the different levels on .
I have googled it but I get lots of very different results and it’s very confusing.
Thanks
 
shaddy4616 said:
Hi , please could someone show me a chart with the different levels on .
I have googled it but I get lots of very different results and it’s very confusing.
Thanks
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Hi @shaddy4616 , welcome to the forum.
Can you please tell us what kind of chart you're looking for?

Is it blood glucose levels or hba1c?
And what country are you in? Units in which those are measured in are different depending on where you live.
 
Antje77 said:
Hi @shaddy4616 , welcome to the forum.
Can you please tell us what kind of chart you're looking for?

Is it blood glucose levels or hba1c?
And what country are you in? Units in which those are measured in are different depending on where you live.
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Hi sorry I’m new to this , I have just had my blood test results back and it says ,56 / 7.2 and I’m just try to work out how good or bad that is .
All the charts I have googled seem to show different results
 
shaddy4616 said:
Hi ,
Yes that the sort of thing I was looking at on line but there are so many and some seem to say my results are in the green and others say it’s worse so I’m a bit confused with it all .
My results say 64/7.2 .
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That confuses me as 7.2% is 55 mmol/mol (the usual measure in the UK), and 64 mmol/mol is 8%. Either way they are in the diabetic range if I've interpreted the units correctly, and if you typed your results correctly.

What units are you using?
 
shaddy4616 said:
My results say 56 and I looked on line at a chart to get the 7.2 conversion
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That’s correct, I think in your previous post it may just have been a typing error :)
So that’s a tad high as you can see from the colour in the chart but far from disastrous I was 11.5 or 102 on diagnosis and I’m 14 years in with no meds diet only and on the cusp of pre diabetic.

What is your diet like? Many T2 here have found reducing their carbs or going full keto really gets their numbers down. So reducing a lot or even cutting out altogether all baked goods, flour, bread unless you buy a keto or low carb one, potatoes and below ground veg except celeriac and swede, rice, pasta and obviously cakes biscuits sweets etc

The good news is the lovely things you can eat, all meats including fatty cuts, steak pork lamb, bacon chicken with skin on etc, cheese, eggs, cream, butter, above ground veggies, salads

Also having a meter and testing before and after meals will tell you if what you ate is ok for your BG. Testing before first bite and 2 hours after and you are looking for a rise of no more than 2 - if it’s a lot higher then you need to adjust your carbs down in that meal quite a bit, if it’s just a tad over then maybe just a small tweak.

There’s a lot to digest and take in so take your time, have a good read around the forum and don’t be afraid to ask any questions
 
Forget any comparisons for now, you are trying to compare two different units like millimetres and inches.
The 56 is a Hba1c result, it is a measurement of how much glucose has stuck to your blood cells over their lifetime of around 12 weeks.
Below 42 is normal, 42 - 47 is pre diabetic, above 47 is T2 , so at 56 you are not massively high but we'll into the diabetic range
 
catinahat said:
Forget any comparisons for now, you are trying to compare two different units like millimetres and inches.
The 56 is a Hba1c result, it is a measurement of how much glucose has stuck to your blood cells over their lifetime of around 12 weeks.
Below 42 is normal, 42 - 47 is pre diabetic, above 47 is T2 , so at 56 you are not massively high but we'll into the diabetic range
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I don’t think that’s the case with OP (But I may be wrong) I read as they are looking at the chart and looking at the old way of the HbA1c (7.2) and the new way 56, my surgery still gives HbA1C in “old & new money” as some people apparently still work in the old way
 
lovinglife said:
I don’t think that’s the case with OP (But I may be wrong) I read as they are looking at the chart and looking at the old way of the HbA1c (7.2) and the new way 56, my surgery still gives HbA1C in “old & new money” as some people apparently still work in the old way
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You could be right, even so this diabetes malarkey is confusing enough without getting Hung up on what units old or new have been used.
All the poster needed to know is what the results mean and how far up the diabetic ladder he is
 
shaddy4616 said:
My results say 56 and I looked on line at a chart to get the 7.2 conversion
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Well, 56 is a diabetic number, but not too bad... Just a slight change in diet could get you back into the normal range, lickedy-split. Why do you want to do the conversion? I'm thinking you're looking for a number with a decimal because you're seeing a lot of those here? But that's not a HbA1c, that's what the blood sugars are doing right now, it's a different test and measurement. My last HbA1c was 36 mmol/mol which is an average of three months worth of blood glucose (6.0 in old money). My current blood glucose is, just test for the heck of it, let's see.... Ah, it's a 6,3 mmol/l, because of the slightly decadent brunch I just had. Whatever the case may be, as I may be way off... Yep, your HbA1c is a diabetic one, but your numbers aren't dramatically bad. And whether you change your diet to get it down, or go the medicinal route, or a combo of those two, you should be able to get your blood sugars under control. You'll be okay, and that's the main thing.
Good luck!
Jo
 
Hi shaddy 4616 and welcome

In most of the world the measuring system used is now millimols per litre for venous blood glucose (the fingerprick test) and millimols per mol for the HbA1c. Typical "normal" values under this system would be around 3.9-7.8 mmol/l for fingerpricks (assuming fasting) and 38-42 mmol/mol for HbA1c.

However the USA still uses milligrams per decilitre (mg/dl) for venous blood glucose, and percentages for HbA1c. As the system changed only about ten years ago there are many patients (and doctors) in the UK who are used to this system and still use it. The "normal" values in this system are roughly 70-140 mg/dl and 5.5-6.0% for HbA1c.

You'll see that the figures (but not the values) unfortunately overlap. This leads to huge confusion on the internet where a lot of the posters are from the US and do not realise that there are different systems. So you'll see people saying things like "my bloods were at 6.5" meaning 6.5mmol/l, and being told by US people that that's definitely diabetic becase they understand it to mean 6.5%.

And it gets further complicated because different countries sometimes classify what the "normal" range is differently. In the UK (as above) it is 38-42 mmol/mol, and this is roughly the same in other countries. However the CDC in the USA has just decided to set its definition of "normal" at a new, lower level.

www.cdc.gov

Diabetes Testing

Get your blood sugar tested if you think you might have prediabetes or type 1, type 2, or gestational diabetes. Testing is simple, and you can usually get your results quickly.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

This essentially redefines everyone who would be in the "normal" range in the UK as being pre-diabetic. I'm sure this is entirely unconnected with the fact that the CDC has also just produced a new "reduce your blood glucose" program, which is now available for people to buy.
 
shaddy4616 said:
Sorry I got it totally mixed up View attachment 63653
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I am confused by the comments.
This screen shot form the NHS put the number 56 into context - it says to "aim for 48 mmol/mol in most groups with diabetes" (it is the cut off point for type 2 diagnosis) and the results are 56 which is too high.

Some people could get into discussions about whether it is good to aim for non-diabetic levels or lower than pre-diabetic. But the message is the same - the number needs to be reduced to reduce the risk of complications.
 
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