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Good morning all,

Whilst low-carbing is there a restiction on the amout of cheese one is allowed? If not can one have a varied amount, eg brie, camerbert etc.
Is there a restriction on eggs as I understand they are bad for you ?

Thank you Nic xxx
 
Cheese n' eggs while lo-carbing are a GOD SEND! Eat as much as you like of each. The variety of cheeses is awesome - and there are very few that you should avoid (just check the label!)
 
You must be very lucky, Patch, because I am on low carb diet and if I eat a mushroom and cheese omelette, my sugar goes sky high. I have to have nearly as much insulin as I take with muesli and plain yoghurt.
 
Cheese puts my sugar up I'm afraid, but I don't know why. Even if on the packaging it says a trace of carbs, I still go up. Same with cream, but I think the cream they make these days, like yogarts, isn't the real thing, and there's hidden carbs in it.
I want to try real farm cheese to see if that's ok, and also the real cream which is nothing like the stuff you get in the supermarket.
Helena
 
I'm with Patch, cheese doesn't touch my BG's and importantly it gets my calorie intake to a semi respectable level as its energy rich. Eggs are ok too. Lunch today was 3 egg omelette 25g of chopped ham and 50g of cheese mixed in.

If you're worried about fat then for some interesting reading why low fat is not necessarily better then look here. The major outcome was

In 2006, The Women's Health Initiative, a $415 Million dollar, eight year study of almost 49,000 middle aged women, which had been designed to prove the health benefits of the Low Fat diet, was forced to publish these conclusions:
Over a mean of 8.1 years, a dietary intervention that reduced total fat intake and increased intakes of vegetables, fruits, and grains did not significantly reduce the risk of CHD, stroke, or CVD in postmenopausal women.
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http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/19066498.php
 
JMM said:
You must be very lucky, Patch, because I am on low carb diet and if I eat a mushroom and cheese omelette, my sugar goes sky high. I have to have nearly as much insulin as I take with muesli and plain yoghurt.
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Don't forget that protein will be converted into glucose and you need to allow for this in your insulin dosage. It may say "carbohydrates - trace" on a pack of cheese but it will still push up your blood sugar but more slowly.

Dr Bernstein also confirms in his book that the process of eating by itself may cause the production of glucagon in diabetics, which causes blood sugar levels to rise. The more you eat, the greater the potential effect due to the stretching of the upper small intestine and a good reason to plan more frequent but smaller meals, rather than stuffing yourself. To prove the point, he quotes that even sawdust will do this, if you eat enough of it!

Phil
 
NIC703 said:
Good morning all,

Whilst low-carbing is there a restiction on the amout of cheese one is allowed? If not can one have a varied amount, eg brie, camerbert etc.
Is there a restriction on eggs as I understand they are bad for you ?

Thank you Nic xxx
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Hi Nic,

Couldn't resist standing up for the wonderful egg! Adverse comments normally come from the anti cholesterol brigade but many experts in nutritional science believe that free range eggs are one of the best food items you could possibly consume.

I certainly eat at least one egg every day. To me, eggs are a health food and I wouldn't go without them.

Phil
 
You have to consider the "Cummulative Carb Effect" (copyright Patch 2011 :wink: )

When you are on a low carb diet - cheese n' eggs WON'T effect your BG. HOWVER - if you are eating carbs, and then eat cheese n' eggs, the fat in the cheese WILL have an effect on your BG. Carbs hang around in your system - so eating cheese on top of the carbs (even if it's more t han a day since you've had carbs) will have a negative impact.

Try it.

(From Atkins: - It takes your body 2 days to "burn off" the carbs stored in your body (fuel). That is why the first few days for some are the hardest on a lo-carb diet. You're using up the last of your stored (carb) energy, and your body is switching over to burning fat for fuel).
 
Are you low carbing for weight loss as well as diabetes control? If so in my opinion (others may differ) if you eat tons and tons of cheese it may impede your weight loss. I think on Atkins you are restricted to 4 oz / apx 100g per day.
Eggs I don't think is a problem.

If you're low carbing for diabetes control then, well cheese doesn't affect me too much but others it does, so test and see!
 
I am finding that reducing my carbs to under 100g a day, plus at the same time keeping my calories to under 1500 a day is producing steady weight loss without much hunger.

This may work for you of you need to lose weight too?
 
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