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Cholesterol and Eggs.

lucylocket61

lucylocket61

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Before i started low carbing (under100g a day) my cholestrol was 5.5

It is now 4.5. but I have been having 2 eggs every day for brakfast. How is it possible to eat so many eggs but have lowered my cholesterol and is it safe to continue having 2 eggs a day?

Thanks.
 
Not sure but I think your numbers speak for themselves! The eggs don't appear to be affecting you negatively. :wink:
 
I can eat upwards of 10 eggs a week and I have excellent cholesterol levels.
 
Thank you both. I will assume I can eat all the eggs I do and review it if my cholesterol level changes.

Its odd because I have also switched from low fat spread to butter. Yummy :D
 
lucylocket61 said:
Thank you both. I will assume I can eat all the eggs I do and review it if my cholesterol level changes.

Its odd because I have also switched from low fat spread to butter. Yummy :D
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Unless you have a medical condition that prevents you from eating too many eggs then there shouldn't be a problem.
 
is it safe to continue having 2 eggs a day?
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Because cholesterol is a major component in all animals' bodies, eggs have a very high cholesterol content. That is why we are still told to eat no more than about 3 a week. Dr Uffe Ravnskov did his own test of this theory by eating a total of 59 eggs over 9 days. Did his cholesterol level shoot up? No, it fell by more than 11% from 7.23 mmol/L to 6.39 mmol/L
(http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/chd-2.html)

Since being diagnosed late last November the local library and Google have become my best health resources.
That and a little discernment.
The deeper you dig the more you discover that prevailing health advice rests upon HYPOTHESES. And extrememly dodgy science.
It feels to me that we're on the edge of a new era of health understanding. About fat in the diet, cholesterol in the diet, refined carbs in the diet, cholesterol figures and their true meaning (it's healthier for over 60's to have higher levels)

I've just read that in the UK in the 50's a John Yudkin (he founded the department of nutrition at Queen Elizabeth College London) advocated a very low carb diet for weight loss, believing that starches and sugars brought nothing of nutritional importance except calories.
He went on to implicate sugar in heart disease, cholesterol levels, triglyceride levels.
Other researchers then implicated higher triglycerides as an indicator of heart disease rather than cholesterol.

This way of viewing nutrition was overtaken by the dietary fat hypothesis endorsed by Keys ans his Seven Countries Study. This HYPOTHESIS has ruled supreme (well nearly) ever since, and most doctors adhere to this advice.
But the embargo on saturated fat is being demolished as we speak, and more directly in answer to your question there are many, including health professionals, who recognise that eggs are good for you, and without health risk.

Make Google your friend, and a whole new world of understanding awaits you :D

And yes, I am trying to egg you on (I'm not yolking !)

Be well
Geoff
 
From what I've heard eggs are not as bad as they used to say they were. You may have heard of Dr Sandra Carbot... she recommends keeping a stash of boiled eggs in the fridge as snacks. Also the cholesterol that is in eggs is good cholesterol.... and if you don't eat enough good cholesterol your body apparently will make it's own bad cholesterol. :D
 
If you eat cholesterol, you digest it. It doesn't go unchanged into your circulation.
What does?
Hana
 
Librarising
thanks for citing Yudkin
I'm a great admirer of his work.
Unfortunately for all of us, at about the same time, Ancel Keys[ who was not a medical scientist] was producing his 7 countries study, which purports to prove that a high fat diet is harmful. In fact it's a perfect example of massaged figures. He started with 33 countries and ditched the data he didn't like, then misinterpreted that which he did. Robert Lustig has shown that the graphs produced by Keys fit better to the sugar consumption in the countries he didn't reject than their fat consumption.
If we all go back to Yudkin [ who did honest work!] we'll be better off.
I'm looking for a copy iof his book "Pure, white and deadly" that I can afford. The only one I've seen for sale was priced at about $200.
Hana
 
Any good books on Cholesterol - not too technical please?
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I see Dr Uffe Ravnskov (see my previous post) has written his own book :

Fat and Cholesterol are Good for You

One Amazon reviewer says

A rare talent is to be able to describe subject matter that requires a deep technical knowledge while making it accessible and easy to understand for the lay person. Dr Ravnskov is the expert's own expert. He describes the cholesterol/heart disease hypothesis and explains it in very clear terms, so that ordinary people can understand what is involved. With the trained eye of a scientist, he assembles all of the available evidence, both positive and negative, and gently leads the reader through the experiments and the clinical research, that either supports the wholesale use of toxic medications or warns us of the consequences if we continue to ignore the irrefutable mountain of scientific data that underpins the benefits of cholesterol to the human body.
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Sounds accessible :D

Be well
Geoff
 
Hi Lucy,
Read everything. I did when I developed T1 in a country that I didn't speak the language very well, it was very necessary.
Read sceptically, there is always more than one side. Be careful, the internet is a bit of an echo chamber and some minority views echo very loudly.
Here's a couple of alternative views to some of those on this thread (though actually I agree about eggs)
the section entitled:
Pure and white red herring from The History of the Cholesterol controversy http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/content ... l.pdf+html
The Truth About Ancel Keys: We’ve All Got It Wrong
http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/12/22/the-tr ... -it-wrong/

Hana, you can find Yudkins book to download on-line.
For completeness, you might also want to read 2 of Key's popular works to see the diet he actually advocated (rather than what the food industry pushed, and what people say he said). Eat Well Stay Well (about the Mediterranean diet) and the Benevolent Bean (the value of pulses), second-hand copies of both available.... but like Yudkin's work they are going on for half a century old.
 
Phoenix,

interesting reading :-)

Although Keys was staunch in his belief that saturated fat causes heart disease by raising blood cholesterol, he was one of the brave few who insisted that dietary cholesterol was pretty much irrelevant.
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relates directly to the original topic.

As (I think) Hana said, your food gets digested.
So not much goes into the bloodstream unchanged.
So you need to look at what cholesterol is built up from once the broken down components of the original food are processed and re-assembled into other stuff inside your body.
Turns out that (apparently) cholesterol is not built directly from dietary choleterol.

So eggs rock :D
 
lucylocket61 said:
Before i started low carbing (under100g a day) my cholestrol was 5.5

It is now 4.5. but I have been having 2 eggs every day for brakfast. How is it possible to eat so many eggs but have lowered my cholesterol and is it safe to continue having 2 eggs a day?

Thanks.
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i was always told that eggs have a substantial amount of lecithin in them & that cuts cholesterol ..so happy egg eating-they also suggest being cautious over runny eggs and salmonella-choose better quality eggs not the cheap and cheerful :thumbup:
 
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