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Coffee with Milk

Mr_Pot

Mr_Pot

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Type of diabetes
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I have been following a low carb diet and had no medication since I was diagnosed with T2D in September 2015. My HbA1c has dropped from 53 to 38 and I have lost about 3 stone and my BMI is now 24 all thanks to this forum.

One thing puzzles me though: when discussing their diet, posters often seem to make a point of mentioning cream in their coffee never milk. I am sure I can't be the only one who finds that cream spoils the taste of coffee and as for bulletproof coffee, healthy maybe but also disgusting. I have espresso with extra hot water and about 40ml of semi-skimmed milk, which I calculate is about 2gms of carbs. Two of those a day is 4 grams of carbs, a small part of my approx 80 grams a day total.

Surely that's not a problem or am I missing something?
 
Whatever you're doing, it's clearly working. I use milk in coffee too with no adverse affects.
 
You have been very successful with what your doing. No need to change.
The reason I use cream in my coffee in the morning is it stops my liver from dumping glucose and it keeps my BG from rising in the morning. I am most insulin resistant in the morning and milk has more carbs the cream so I avoid it.
 
If you look at a packet of skimmed milk it is almost all lactose (a sugar) and water.

100 ml of skimmed milk carbohydrates 4.9 grams of which sugar 4.9 grams.
100 ml double cream carbohydrate 1.6 grams of which sugar 1.6 grams

So double cream has less carbs and the fat helps to slow down the carb uptake.

Drinking a big glass of skimmed milk (500 ml) would give you 24.5 grams of carbs which is about the one day allowance for very low carbers.

Good luck drinking 500 ml of double cream. :)
 
Mr_Pot said:
I have been following a low carb diet and had no medication since I was diagnosed with T2D in September 2015. My HbA1c has dropped from 53 to 38 and I have lost about 3 stone and my BMI is now 24 all thanks to this forum.

One thing puzzles me though: when discussing their diet, posters often seem to make a point of mentioning cream in their coffee never milk. I am sure I can't be the only one who finds that cream spoils the taste of coffee and as for bulletproof coffee, healthy maybe but also disgusting. I have espresso with extra hot water and about 40ml of semi-skimmed milk, which I calculate is about 2gms of carbs. Two of those a day is 4 grams of carbs, a small part of my approx 80 grams a day total.

Surely that's not a problem or am I missing something?
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I always have skimmed or semi skimmed, like you, I think cream completely ruins the flavour.
And you're spot on with the carbs, it's next to nothing in that amount of milk.
1.3 g more per cup for milk than cream.
 
LittleGreyCat said:
If you look at a packet of skimmed milk it is almost all lactose (a sugar) and water.

100 ml of skimmed milk carbohydrates 4.9 grams of which sugar 4.9 grams.
100 ml double cream carbohydrate 1.6 grams of which sugar 1.6 grams

So double cream has less carbs and the fat helps to slow down the carb uptake.

Drinking a big glass of skimmed milk (500 ml) would give you 24.5 grams of carbs which is about the one day allowance for very low carbers.

Good luck drinking 500 ml of double cream. :)
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I agree, however I wasn't suggesting drinking 500ml of milk but having 40ml in my coffee.
 
Mr_Pot said:
I have been following a low carb diet and had no medication since I was diagnosed with T2D in September 2015. My HbA1c has dropped from 53 to 38 and I have lost about 3 stone and my BMI is now 24 all thanks to this forum.

One thing puzzles me though: when discussing their diet, posters often seem to make a point of mentioning cream in their coffee never milk. I am sure I can't be the only one who finds that cream spoils the taste of coffee and as for bulletproof coffee, healthy maybe but also disgusting. I have espresso with extra hot water and about 40ml of semi-skimmed milk, which I calculate is about 2gms of carbs. Two of those a day is 4 grams of carbs, a small part of my approx 80 grams a day total.

Surely that's not a problem or am I missing something?
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Why do you have semi skimmed could I ask?
I tend to use full fat lactofree in my tea only have cream in coffee.
When you are trying to stay below 20g of carbs a day everything helps.
 
bulkbiker said:
Why do you have semi skimmed could I ask?
I tend to use full fat lactofree in my tea only have cream in coffee.
When you are trying to stay below 20g of carbs a day everything helps.
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My family drink a lot milk and say full fat tastes rather "oily" especially in tea. I don't want to buy a different type of milk just for the small amount that I use.
 
I could never in a million years have full cream milk in tea. It makes me feel nauseous, so I have a dash of semi skimmed. I thought this was non-negotiable in the morning until I started to use the Libre sensor and saw a rise, entirely due to the tea. I do not get the same rises later in the day. I abandoned the morning tea in favour of coffee and cream and no longer see a rise.

As a youngster at home with my parents, mum made coffee with 100% milk (full cream milk, no water). It was always a comfort food for me. So now I am drinking coffee with cream it tastes very similar and is still my go-to comfort food.
 
I switched to soya milk at home for tea drinking and have cream in coffee when I'm not necking the Bulletproof stuff. At work I use normal milk in my teas and coffees and drink fewer than I used to.

When I was first diagnosed, milk would send my readings up, but now I'm somewhat less insulin resistant I can tolerate milk in my drinks at work.
 
Tabbyjoolz said:
I switched to soya milk at home for tea drinking and have cream in coffee when I'm not necking the Bulletproof stuff. At work I use normal milk in my teas and coffees and drink fewer than I used to.

When I was first diagnosed, milk would send my readings up, but now I'm somewhat less insulin resistant I can tolerate milk in my drinks at work.
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I used to have soya milk but ditched it after reading various keto diet pieces advising against it. The minimal carbs in the full fat lactofree don't seem to effect me any more now but then again I have very few (if any) other carbs these days anyway..
 
I aim for a lot fewer carbs than 80g a day, not because i occupy some LC moral highground, but simply because my body won't tolerate that much carbohydrate. :)

So the difference between carbs in milk and carbs in cream adds up.
Cream also has several other benefits
- halts cravings
- halts liver dumps
- filling and satisfying
- tastes good (to me)
 
Mr_Pot said:
I have been following a low carb diet and had no medication since I was diagnosed with T2D in September 2015. My HbA1c has dropped from 53 to 38 and I have lost about 3 stone and my BMI is now 24 all thanks to this forum.

One thing puzzles me though: when discussing their diet, posters often seem to make a point of mentioning cream in their coffee never milk. I am sure I can't be the only one who finds that cream spoils the taste of coffee and as for bulletproof coffee, healthy maybe but also disgusting. I have espresso with extra hot water and about 40ml of semi-skimmed milk, which I calculate is about 2gms of carbs. Two of those a day is 4 grams of carbs, a small part of my approx 80 grams a day total.

Surely that's not a problem or am I missing something?
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As long as you count the carbs into your daily numbers, I honestly wouldn't worry about it. There aren't a massive number of carbs in a little semi-skimmed milk and if you prefer it, go for it. I personally prefer a strong coffee or two with double cream for brekkie, but that's my taste and the fat usually fills me up till dinner so helps with intermittent fasting, but I wouldn't have it if I didn't enjoy it.
 
I get told by my dietitian to add dried skimmed milk in to normal milk to get extra calories in me!!

Also have a look at Wikipedia description for skimmed milk. It used to be fed to pigs to fatten them up.....

Say no more..

Full fat organic for me and also my one gorgeous bean coffee of the day will have single cream in it.....

Also have turmeric latte with coconut milk sometimes..

Never soya because of the links to breast cancer.. (Depending which article you read and who wrote it)....
 
Its a matter of taste don't you think? As farmers, we'd never drink anything else but full fat and to my palate semi or skimmed taste watery. Its already been said that what you're doing is paying off so why go onto drinking milk you don't like? I don't like greens so I don't eat them as I think life's too short to force calories I don't enjoy eating down my gullet! I also dislike tripe - why would I eat it?
 
Hubby loves his tea milky. Full fat.
I drink my tea black. but do love cream in my coffee.
We are all different and if what you like works for you, go for it :)
 
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