Coke Zero and KP Peanuts

[charlie000]

I normally stop eating at around 7pm. I don’t feel hunter whilst on LCHF so don’t need to eat anymore. I have water or tea (yes I can sleep on tea late at night).

My blood glucose reaches 4.8-5 before I sleep. When I wake up I’m around 5.3.

However if I have KP salted peanuts or a zero coke or 7up free my blood glucose goes up to 6 when I wake up and sometimes 6.7

Also noticed having these Zero drinks give me a bad nights sleep. What could be causing it?

Is it true they have sugar but advertised as sugar free?

I’m new to all this.

 

[bulkbiker]

Some people have been known to have reactions to artificial sweeteners that will be in these drinks. The bad sleep could be down to caffeine perhaps?
It would seem sensible to remove them for a week and see if the reactions go away and if they do remove them from your life forever?

 

[Deleted Account]

Could the high level of caffeine in coke zero be giving you a bad night's sleep and the bad night's sleep raise your BG?
There is a lot more caffeine in coke than tea.

 

[KK123]

I normally stop eating at around 7pm. I don’t feel hunter whilst on LCHF so don’t need to eat anymore. I have water or tea (yes I can sleep on tea late at night).

My blood glucose reaches 4.8-5 before I sleep. When I wake up I’m around 5.3.

However if I have KP salted peanuts or a zero coke or 7up free my blood glucose goes up to 6 when I wake up and sometimes 6.7

Also noticed having these Zero drinks give me a bad nights sleep. What could be causing it?

Is it true they have sugar but advertised as sugar free?

I’m new to all this.

I suspect it's the salted peanuts which are actually a legume (ie more of a bean). The way they are cooked adds to it too, any rise associated with them seems to last longer. If I eat them before bed (and I do love them) I know for a fact EVERY time my levels are at least 1 point higher the next morning. Try salted almonds instead (I have no rise with these).

 

[charlie000]

Some people have been known to have reactions to artificial sweeteners that will be in these drinks. The bad sleep could be down to caffeine perhaps?
It would seem sensible to remove them for a week and see if the reactions go away and if they do remove them from your life forever?

I agree I will do this

 

[charlie000]

Could the high level of caffeine in coke zero be giving you a bad night's sleep and the bad night's sleep raise your BG?
There is a lot more caffeine in coke than tea.

I forgot about the coke caffeine but the same happens with 7up free

 

[Member496333]

Carbohydrate in the nuts won’t help, and caffeine may have an effect to some degree. In my experience with such matters, it’s very often a combination of factors that we would otherwise expect to be miminal in isolation. Even protein can manifest in this way with some individuals. My money is on the nuts.

 

[charlie000]

I suspect it's the salted peanuts which are actually a legume (ie more of a bean). The way they are cooked adds to it too, any rise associated with them seems to last longer. If I eat them before bed (and I do love them) I know for a fact EVERY time my levels are at least 1 point higher the next morning. Try salted almonds instead (I have no rise with these).

I suspect this too. Salted peanuts don’t cause rise in the day with other meals but overnight they do...

Almonds are ok for me too

 

[charlie000]

Carbohydrate in the nuts won’t help, and caffeine may have an effect to some degree. In my experience with such matters, it’s very often a combination of factors that we would otherwise expect to be miminal in isolation. Even protein can manifest in this way with some individuals. My money is on the nuts.

I’m going to experiment. Going to try nuts then nothing two days then Coke Zero nothing two days then 7up. See what happens!

 

[Spl@]

You must eat a lot. Kp nuts are only around 6g carb and 100g is quite a sizeable portion.

Certainly enough to remove any question of constipation, for me anyway and I'm a peanut fan too.

Edited because sometimes I write without turning my brain on,

 

[charlie000]

You must eat a lot. Kp nuts are only around 6g carb and 100g is quite a sizeable portion.

Certainly enough to remove any question of constipation, for me anyway and I'm a peanut fan too.

I think I would maybe blame the protein more than the carbs. Almonds typically have less protein than peanuts.

Eat a lot peanuts or eat a lot in general and yeah I love nuts too

 

[charlie000]

I think it’s the coke the artificial sweeteners

 

[Spl@]

Can't comment. Don't drink anything with those sweeteners in.

Yes ment a lot of peanuts.

 

[Listlad]

Eat a lot peanuts or eat a lot in general and yeah I love nuts too

I have and eat and like peanuts in my LCHF food “arsenal”. But I don’t go through the whole packet in one go. Just a good handful or maybe two at the most.

 

[charlie000]

Can't comment. Don't drink anything with those sweeteners in.

Yes ment a lot of peanuts.

I’ve managed to stop all other fizzy pop but need to stop the sugar free ones

 

[charlie000]

I have and eat and like peanuts in my LCHF food “arsenal”. But I don’t go through the whole packet in one go. Just a good handful or maybe two at the most.

Two nuts?

 

[Listlad]

Two nuts?

Two handfuls.

 

[KK123]

You must eat a lot. Kp nuts are only around 6g carb and 100g is quite a sizeable portion.

Certainly enough to remove any question of constipation, for me anyway and I'm a peanut fan too.

Edited because sometimes I write without turning my brain on,

Nope, not necessarily and I know you weren't answering me but I actually think that although it is only 7 carbs a 100g it seems to have more of an effect (long term) than 7 carbs of something else. Personally I could eat 10 to 15 carbs of bread and have less of an effect. I think it's to do with carbs being the same in amount but different in composition, ie 10 carbs of one thing raises you for two hours and then drops against another 10 raising you less but for a period of 10 hours, is this the GI effect? I know carbs are carbs but their individual effects are different.

 

[Listlad]

Nope, not necessarily and I know you weren't answering me but I actually think that although it is only 7 carbs a 100g it seems to have more of an effect (long term) than 7 carbs of something else. Personally I could eat 10 to 15 carbs of bread and have less of an effect. I think it's to do with carbs being the same in amount but different in composition, ie 10 carbs of one thing raises you for two hours and then drops against another 10 raising you less but for a period of 10 hours, is this the GI effect? I know carbs are carbs but their individual effects are different.

It wouldn’t surprise me if you were right. Makes sense.

I liken it to hydrocarbon gases. They are all hydrocarbon gases but are different, explodes at differing temperatures, are lighter in some cases and heavier in others and have differing smells. A bit of a digression but the analogy works for me.

 

[Spl@]

Nope, not necessarily and I know you weren't answering me but I actually think that although it is only 7 carbs a 100g it seems to have more of an effect (long term) than 7 carbs of something else. Personally I could eat 10 to 15 carbs of bread and have less of an effect. I think it's to do with carbs being the same in amount but different in composition, ie 10 carbs of one thing raises you for two hours and then drops against another 10 raising you less but for a period of 10 hours, is this the GI effect? I know carbs are carbs but their individual effects are different.

The only absolute certainty with diabetes is that everybody is affected differently and we all have foods we are hyper sensitive to.

For me it's bread and alcohol. Booze especially lights me up.