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Dawnybee

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I got called in to do fasting glucose as my initial blood glucose was high
After this I have been testing and no matter how low carb my diet is after eating it’s between 12 - 16 mmol on friends glucose monitor
What can I do to reduce this ?
Also do I have to stop drinking alcohol I drink wine twice a week
Still awaiting results from doctors since last Friday :/
 
I got called in to do fasting glucose as my initial blood glucose was high
After this I have been testing and no matter how low carb my diet is after eating it’s between 12 - 16 mmol on friends glucose monitor
What can I do to reduce this ?
Also do I have to stop drinking alcohol I drink wine twice a week
Still awaiting results from doctors since last Friday :/

Hi Dawn, I see you are 'undiagnosed', have they said what type they think you are?
 
Hi Dawn and welcome, as is tradition here, I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post.
Can you give us a few more details please? This might give us some pointers. First have you tested before the meals too, so you can compare results with the post prandial ones? Also how long after eating are you resting? Then can you give us a typical day’s low carb menu you’ve been eating to see if we can tweak anything.
Lastly keep an open mind about which type you might be.
 
Hi Dawn and welcome, as is tradition here, I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post.
Can you give us a few more details please? This might give us some pointers. First have you tested before the meals too, so you can compare results with the post prandial ones? Also how long after eating are you resting? Then can you give us a typical day’s low carb menu you’ve been eating to see if we can tweak anything.
Lastly keep an open mind about which type you might be.
Hi I tested before meal and was 6.5 had been 6 hours since I last ate .. I eat small piece of high protein bread with salmon and salad or egg boiled .. for tea I have gammon or chicken with lots of carrots broccoli and a small amount of mash that’s it for the day . I used to eat until 3 days ago a LOT of carbs rice , potatoe , bread with everything x
 
Hi @Dawnybee
Carrots and other 'below ground' veg aren't low carb. Stick with the broccoli. Also, mash and most potatoes are high carb. Have a read around this site and see what other people are eating..... Most T2's eat low carb so that means very little if any bread, potato, rice, wheat, etc. You don't need to go cold turkey, but try to reduce slowly - and don't expect a dramatic drop in your bs immediately.
 
Hi @Dawnybee
Carrots and other 'below ground' veg aren't low carb. Stick with the broccoli. Also, mash and most potatoes are high carb. Have a read around this site and see what other people are eating..... Most T2's eat low carb so that means very little if any bread, potato, rice, wheat, etc. You don't need to go cold turkey, but try to reduce slowly - and don't expect a dramatic drop in your bs immediately.
Ah I see that’s why the root mash spiked me to 15.6 yesterday then !! Thank you ☺️ will look around ... I have so much to learn !! Should I continue as I am and wait to see what doc says or should I resume me terribly high carb diet until I know what’s going on?
 
I wouldn't eat high carb when you don't know what's going on yet.

If you are diabetic, or prediabetic, high carb foods will hurt your body with blood glucose spikes. Carbohydrates break down into the body as sugar which is something our bodies can't handle. A lot of nondiabetics eat low carb as well, some for other health reasons. A low carb diet will not hurt someone without diabetes but a high carb foods will hurt someone with diabetes or prediabetes.
 
I wouldn't eat high carb when you don't know what's going on yet.

If you are diabetic, or prediabetic, high carb foods will hurt your body with blood glucose spikes. Carbohydrates break down into the body as sugar which is something our bodies can't handle. A lot of nondiabetics eat low carb as well, some for other health reasons. A low carb diet will not hurt someone without diabetes but a high carb foods will hurt someone with diabetes or prediabetes.
Very good point of view ok will try to be good!! It’s hard completely changing your diet:)
 
The hardest part about it is IMHO getting started. It turned out not to be as difficult as I thought. I reduced my carbs gradually and felt better within a couple of days.

BTW, there's a lot of thinking now that the average nondiabetic person eats far too many carbs (over 300g daily). If you are overweight or insulin resistant (as I am), reducing carbs will make weight loss much easier and reduces hunger.
 
@Dawnybee
Hello Dawnbee and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
The hardest part about it is IMHO getting started. It turned out not to be as difficult as I thought. I reduced my carbs gradually and felt better within a couple of days.

BTW, there's a lot of thinking now that the average nondiabetic person eats far too many carbs (over 300g daily). If you are overweight or insulin resistant (as I am), reducing carbs will make weight loss much easier and reduces hunger.
Fantastic support thank you ☺️ x x
 
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