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Condition Or Disease?

Jaylee said:
The way I see it.

The engine managment system (or ECU.) is fine but the component it controls (in my case the pancreas.) needs replacing.
However. I'm still perfectly capable of driving home regardless of this fault..
There could be worst things like coolant loss & a head gasket....

A condition. Maybe a new "component" some day?
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I'll just get VCDS on it and reset the DTCs. You'll be fine!
 
Jaylee said:
The way I see it.

The engine managment system (or ECU.) is fine but the component it controls (in my case the pancreas.) needs replacing.
However. I'm still perfectly capable of driving home regardless of this fault..
There could be worst things like coolant loss & a head gasket....

A condition. Maybe a new "component" some day?
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So what's all this @Jaylee . Are you now running an online breakdown/ recovery service?;);).
 
therower said:
So what's all this @Jaylee . Are you now running an online breakdown/ recovery service?;);).
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Seems like it! :)
Today I have had my hands dirty on a 2.5ltr TD Ford Ranger engine in a Jap import Mazda van..

Long story that will derail this thread.. :banghead:;)
 
Many can disagree. Depending on their journey managing their diabetes.
I feel disease. Some people's bodies are more diseased than others.
I've read many prediabetics have neuropathy. I still struggle to understand why...... but its because its a disease!
 
According to the tabloids (on today's version, tomorrow will be different), it is self inflicted, so it doesn't matter what you call it , IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT.
 
Jaylee said:
Seems like it! :)
Today I have had my hands dirty on a 2.5ltr TD Ford Ranger engine in a Jap import Mazda van..

Long story that will derail this thread.. :banghead:;)
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I once had a Jap import mazda Demio. Ran beautifully. Lasted years. The Japanese imports are known for being really good.
 
I am going to have to ask / tell everyone posting to keep to the topic of the thread, which, I remind you all is
'Condition or disease?'
Please don't derail the thread.
 
Condition sounds like environmental and variable to what itis. So some may argue now with so many different types its a condition.
Is diabetes the product or the cause?
Insulin resistance comes before the diabetes for type2s.
Attack on immune comes before diabetes for type1s.

Some have both causes but same product.
Causes are the condition.
Product is the disease.
 
I think it is an overarching condition that can lead to a disease or multiple diseases as a symptom e.g. heart or kidney disease. It is a dangerous so and so, as untreated it is a gateway to many symptoms, whereas with a "regular" direct disease, I am guessing that most times it is a singular symptom that is exhibited? E.g. colon cancer as far as I know does not affect eye sight, heart etc.
 
Mbaker said:
I think it is an overarching condition that can lead to a disease or multiple diseases as a symptom e.g. heart or kidney disease. It is a dangerous so and so, as untreated it is a gateway to many symptoms, whereas with a "regular" direct disease, I am guessing that most times it is a singular symptom that is exhibited? E.g. colon cancer as far as I know does not affect eye sight, heart etc.
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So do you think that because glucose remains in the blood instead of being processed like none diabetics, its a condition or is that damaged process a disease?

It says...
Diseased
Noun
a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury."bacterial meningitis is quite a rare disease"

Snonyms:
illness, sickness, ill health; Morea particular quality or disposition regarded as adversely affecting a person or group of people."we are suffering from the British disease of self-deprecation"
 
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ickihun said:
So do you think that because glucose remains in the blood instead of being processed like none diabetics, its a condition or is that damaged process a disease?

It says...
Diseased
Noun
a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury."bacterial meningitis is quite a rare disease"

Snonyms:
illness, sickness, ill health; Morea particular quality or disposition regarded as adversely affecting a person or group of people."we are suffering from the British disease of self-deprecation"
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I would say, that the glucose remaining in the blood is a condition of Insulin Resistance. I am sold on the "Personal Fat Threshold" (PFT) theory, and that once this is solved it allows the pancreas and liver to communicate correctly whilst simultaneously enabling the insulin key to unlock the cells, allowing the glucose in. It is confusing, because the furriness of the cells stopping the uptake of glucose, some might say is a disease symptom, and that insulin resistance could also be a disease. I am just grateful that we have within our grasp safe ways to self manage.
 
It matters not a jot to me what people call it.
Although i tend to use the word 'condition' mainly because a lot of people seem to think that diseases are communicable. I know that is not the case, but it just seems simpler to use the word 'condition' and skip the medical explanation.
 
Words do matter your internal mental processes to a large part involve language in fact to impart your indifference to a particular use of language you have to use language after all the label "who cares" is a symbolic representation of your indifference.
 
Personally, I think we can call it what we want. It makes little difference whether it is a condition or a disease. If you have a quick search on the web, you'll find it described both ways and in terms that use both words. As a result, I'd suggest that it's not really something to get worked up over.

Take your pick and be comfortable in knowing that around 50% of people will disagree with you....
 
DaftThoughts made a great point earlier though: I think individual diabetics can call it either of the two synonyms, but calling diabetes 'a condition' can be quite conducive to making it easily dismissed by the wider public. If 'heart disease' is an accepted term, then diabetes can certainly be classed as a disease. Of course, you can have a 'heart condition' in relation to 'heart disease'. I'd be inclined to use similar terminology for diabetes.
 
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