Welcome!
AH...you received the 'standard' NHS 'treatment' which really is not very helpful at allIf you 'dare' to go against hospital dietary advise (like most of us over here have done), you can do yourself a BIG favour...have a look at our 'low carb' dietary advise section...'LowCarbHighFat = LCHF" has been such a success for many to bring down our blood sugar levels AND bringing down weight too.. without heading to the GYM nor sweating even a drop!!! Trust me..I've always been in same situation, weight doesn't change much either way...until now.
How you adjust your diet is totally up to you...slowly or drastically but it is perfectly maintainable way of 'living'...not a crash diet and then back to old waysHave a look....
Thank you, will look now.Welcome!
AH...you received the 'standard' NHS 'treatment' which really is not very helpful at allIf you 'dare' to go against hospital dietary advise (like most of us over here have done), you can do yourself a BIG favour...have a look at our 'low carb' dietary advise section...'LowCarbHighFat = LCHF" has been such a success for many to bring down our blood sugar levels AND bringing down weight too.. without heading to the GYM nor sweating even a drop!!! Trust me..I've always been in same situation, weight doesn't change much either way...until now.
How you adjust your diet is totally up to you...slowly or drastically but it is perfectly maintainable way of 'living'...not a crash diet and then back to old waysHave a look....
Thanks for that!Welcome to the forums, I am tagging @daisy1 who will be along with lots of information that will help you understand your diabetes. As Finsky has advised the LCHF way of eating is the easiest way to keep blood sugars down.
Hello Mike,What is your BP, your BMI, what do you eat (portions incl), do you take BP tablets and why the fear in getting some scales?
Welcome by the way
Mike
@daisy1 thank you so much, will have a look.@Benluce0uf
Hello and welcome to the forumHere is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful and especially the advice about diet. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.
BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
- Reduce your carbohydrate intake
- Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes
LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.
- Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
- structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
- self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Hi @Benluce and welcome to the forum. An HbA1c blood test measures your blood sugar level over the last 8-12 weeks. It is more accurate than the finger prick test which you presumably had, which showed your bs as 8.5. The finger prick tests give an indication of your bs level at that moment, but don't conclusively show you have diabetes as the test can be affected by various factors including what you have recently eaten, stress or an infection/illness.my first Hba1c blood test is due in May but don't really know what that is either.
Hello Mike,
My BP was 189/100, I am on medication for it and it is much lower now, my BMI is 30!
I eat salad, veg, pasta, jacket potatoes and the only meat I eat is chicken every now and again. I've got scales and keep an eye on my weight but the GP and DN never one weighed me but kept going on about loosing weight and eating healthy... Reading people's comments they seemed to have a good check over but I never did, so I'm slightly confused as to what I should be doing, my first Hba1c blood test is due in May but don't really know what that is either.
Thanks Mike
Wow, thanks Mike, very interesting stuff.. The 8.5 was a fasting BT taken by doctors! Maybe I have been eating the wrong stuff , thinking I'm being good!No worries at all @Benluce0uf / Carol
If BP is dropping, then good.and yes, they should have weighed you, at least initially IMO. No bother on that front either as it's in the scheme of things, not the final target and if you have scales (and yes, I get the sensitivities from the ladies) then use them as you see fit.
Your HbA1c is a measure of your blood glucose over the previous 3 months weighted toward the last month. THAT number is important. Who did that 8.5 test? You? May is your 1st HbA1c? In other words, they pronounced you diabetic on the basis of a finger test?
BTW, pastas and potatoes will (for many diabetics) jump figures but we'll get to that when we need to. Keep coming back Carol
Mike
Wow, thanks Mike, very interesting stuff.. The 8.5 was a fasting BT taken by doctors! Maybe I have been eating the wrong stuff , thinking I'm being good!
I will keep coming back and reading what you all have to say, as I said a phone call from GP to say I was diabetic was the last thing I was expecting! Thank you all
Hi @Totto ,Thanks for the tag @Mike D
Hi @Benluce0uf were you diagnosed by a single fasting blood test? No HbA1c done? No follow up fasting BG test?
Go back to your GP and see that you get a HbA1c test done, at least. And full blood count as well as liver panel and kidney tests including urine sample.
I think you need a new GP actually.
Are you on Levo? Do you get the free thyroid hormones tested or only TSH? What are your numbers?
LCHF is a good idea regardless, particularly staying off grains as grainfree can have an amazing effect on autoimmune conditions like hypothyroidism.
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