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Robhj73

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Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
HI,
I'm a 42 year old man with type 2, since being diagnosed a year ago I carried on my daily life pretending I'd be ok and giving my sweet tooth all it could handle. As a result this last few weeks have seen a dramatic change in how I feel, i suffer sweats, dizziness and zero energy like I couldn't imagine, along with a foul mood which doesn't help, I work shift which includes nights, and have 2 daughters under 3 years old therefore my sleep deprivation has reached new levels! To cope with diabetes as well has simply been to much and I found myself feeling like I was on the verge of passing out several times a day. I feel like joining this site is a cry for help as I'm seeking understanding from people who have experienced this and also help in moving forward. I find it very difficult to manage and not give in to the temptations that present themselves all the time, whenever I try to read up on foods I end up confused with all the differing opinions and then give up again, can anyone help with any advice other than keep off the sugar as my doctor says, it's more than that I know I just want some clear answers
Thanks
 
Hi there, I think this is the right place for you.I was diagnosed Type 2 just over a month ago and have got my Blood Glucose levels down substantially in that time by following the advice here and sticking to a LCHF diet. It has worked for many here also. I had similar symptoms to yourself which are now greatly improved.Now we are all different, so what works for one may not work for everyone.I think it is all about education so if you can invest some time here you will learn a lot,not from medical professionals but more importantly those who have lived it.
So get a cuppa take a breath and have a good read around here,there is great support and experience to be had.
Any questions at all just ask.
Cheers.
 
Hi. Welcome to the group. Getting diagnosed is a lot to take in and many of us react in different ways; it seems you have stuck your head in the sand for the last year but have now pulled it out and are ready to face things and make some changes. That is positive. Have a read around the forum and see what other people are doing and also what positive results people have had and how much better they feel by changing their diet and controlling their blood glucose levels. Hopefully you will be inspired to do the same.

I was diagnosed in April (and also have a toddler, my son turns 2 this Friday) with a HBA1c of 53 and at my 3 month check in July, I have managed to reduce that to 38. Like many on here, I have done this by cutting out sugar, most fruit, pasta, rice, potatoes (apart from a couple of small new pots every now and then) and most bread. It sounds really drastic to begin with, and I guess it is and can take some getting used to, but I still really enjoy my food and have lost over 2 stone which is almost 20% of my body weight.

I'm not saying it has always been easy, but I am very much getting used to the changes to my lifestyle and love that I look so much better and have started running again, something which is a lot easier when not lugging around an extra 2 stone in weight! My little boy is what has kept me motivated over the last few months; I owe it to him to get and stay healthy.

Diabetes is a journey that none of us wants to be on, but we can all support each other along the way.

Good luck Rob
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. I had my head in the sand for the first 2 years, then started putting the work in to get my blood sugars down, and I ended up losing 7 stone. I've regained some of that so I am restarting my improved eating plan this week and we can do this together if you like :)

The good news is that when you cut down on carbs, after a few days you are likely to stop craving them so much, and it becomes much easier to stick to your plan and resist temptation.

I'd recommend seeing your GP or nurse for a check up and some blood tests to act as a baseline from this point forward.

I will tag @daisy1 who has some info for newbies to the forum that she will post for you.
 
Hi. Welcome to the group. Getting diagnosed is a lot to take in and many of us react in different ways; it seems you have stuck your head in the sand for the last year but have now pulled it out and are ready to face things and make some changes. That is positive. Have a read around the forum and see what other people are doing and also what positive results people have had and how much better they feel by changing their diet and controlling their blood glucose levels. Hopefully you will be inspired to do the same.

I was diagnosed in April (and also have a toddler, my son turns 2 this Friday) with a HBA1c of 53 and at my 3 month check in July, I have managed to reduce that to 38. Like many on here, I have done this by cutting out sugar, most fruit, pasta, rice, potatoes (apart from a couple of small new pots every now and then) and most bread. It sounds really drastic to begin with, and I guess it is and can take some getting used to, but I still really enjoy my food and have lost over 2 stone which is almost 20% of my body weight.

I'm not saying it has always been easy, but I am very much getting used to the changes to my lifestyle and love that I look so much better and have started running again, something which is a lot easier when not lugging around an extra 2 stone in weight! My little boy is what has kept me motivated over the last few months; I owe it to him to get and stay healthy.

Diabetes is a journey that none of us wants to be on, but we can all support each other along the way.

Good luck Rob
HI,
Thanks so much it means a lot to hear from people dealing with the same issues and how to overcome them, my daughters are my focus for making positive changes so there's no looking back.
Thanks again
 
@Robhj73

Hello and welcome to the forum:). Here is the information we give to new members, in addition to the useful information you have received from other members. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi and welcome. If you haven't already got a glucose meter then do get one as it's essential that we all test our blood sugar if in doubt and it also helps us learn which foods affect us most. Yes, as others have said, keep all the carbs down and if this doesn't hold your sugars in the right area then see the DN as check medication.
 
Hi and welcome. It's all too much for you right now but with the brilliant advice you will get here it will all become easier. Ask as many questions as you need to and chin up...it gets better :D
 
Hey there fella. Daisy's provided you with a load of good info, but you asked for a couple of clear answers, so here's my tuppence..
your doctor's right about the sugar, but what you might not realise is that all carbohydrate foods convert to sugar once you've eaten them. That's bread, pasta, rice, cereal, potatoes and similar stuff. I've had to cut back on them all. Some folks cut back more than others, and that's for you to decide once you've read round the subject a bit.

Good news? Improvement is within your grasp. Some lifelong changes will be needed but if you make them you'll get the benefit. I was diagnosed 3 months ago and made big changes to my diet - I haven't felt as good in years.
 
Hey there fella. Daisy's provided you with a load of good info, but you asked for a couple of clear answers, so here's my tuppence..
your doctor's right about the sugar, but what you might not realise is that all carbohydrate foods convert to sugar once you've eaten them. That's bread, pasta, rice, cereal, potatoes and similar stuff. I've had to cut back on them all. Some folks cut back more than others, and that's for you to decide once you've read round the subject a bit.

Good news? Improvement is within your grasp. Some lifelong changes will be needed but if you make them you'll get the benefit. I was diagnosed 3 months ago and made big changes to my diet - I haven't felt as good in years.
Hey,
Thanks for your message, I've learnt more on here in 2 hours than I have in over a year by reading about people's journeys and receiving great information from good people such as yourself, suffice to say I'm more optimistic than ever that I can turn the corner and get a grip on things.
Thanks again
 
Hi and welcome. If you haven't already got a glucose meter then do get one as it's essential that we all test our blood sugar if in doubt and it also helps us learn which foods affect us most. Yes, as others have said, keep all the carbs down and if this doesn't hold your sugars in the right area then see the DN as check medication.
HI,
Many thanks for you input, I've looked at monitors and there are so many, is there a particular one or two I should lean towards purchasing as I know very little about them, so they need to be approved etc?
Thanks again
 
@Robhj73

Hello and welcome to the forum:). Here is the information we give to new members, in addition to the useful information you have received from other members. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Daisy,
Many thanks for the information, so glad I found this site, talking to people and reading different experiences with diabetes has opened my eyes somewhat.

Thanks again
 
HI,
Many thanks for you input, I've looked at monitors and there are so many, is there a particular one or two I should lean towards purchasing as I know very little about them, so they need to be approved etc?
Thanks again
There's one called the "SD CodeFree". It's what I bought after reading answers to that exact question. It's cheap and the consumables are cheap compared to other models (when I say consumables, I mean strips & lancets. You get a meter, but you also have to buy the actual little strips that test the blood which are single use only, plus the thing that pricks your skin, called a lancet, needs to be replaced regularly) . Some clever person might provide a link to a website where you can get the whole lot for the best price. I got mine off Amazon.

There are meant to be better meters. I wouldn't know - I bought this one and it seems to work OK.
 
Many of us have the SD Codefree from http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm because the test strips are the cheapest. If you decide to buy come back and get promo codes for even cheaper strips

You can see from my signature how long I was in denial and how much progress I've made recently using a low carb high fat eating plan. Welcome to the forum and keep asking questions - we'll do what we can to help!
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. I had my head in the sand for the first 2 years, then started putting the work in to get my blood sugars down, and I ended up losing 7 stone. I've regained some of that so I am restarting my improved eating plan this week and we can do this together if you like :)

The good news is that when you cut down on carbs, after a few days you are likely to stop craving them so much, and it becomes much easier to stick to your plan and resist temptation.

I'd recommend seeing your GP or nurse for a check up and some blood tests to act as a baseline from this point forward.

I will tag @daisy1 who has some info for newbies to the forum that she will post for you.
HI,
Thanks for your information, I've had a great response since joining the group only today it's amazing how many people help and share on here, if I'm honest I don't know the first thing about the right and wrong things to eat, apart from the obvious, so any pointers would be great, once I know what's what then my aim is to give myself a plan to follow and hopefully make some changes.

Thanks again
 
HI,
Thanks for your information, I've had a great response since joining the group only today it's amazing how many people help and share on here, if I'm honest I don't know the first thing about the right and wrong things to eat, apart from the obvious, so any pointers would be great, once I know what's what then my aim is to give myself a plan to follow and hopefully make some changes.

Thanks again
Most of us didn't know what to eat when we arrived here so you are not alone :)

If you read and re-read daisy1's post, you can't go wrong, basically. This part tells you the worst culprits for keeping blood glucose too high:

"The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits."

I have recently started eating berries when I want something sweet, because they are typically only 5-7% carb. :)
 
Hiya and welcome to the forum!

Take a look at the following thread for ideas on what to eat

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/type-2s-what-have-you-eaten-today.75783/page-31#post-926234

If you're a bread lover try Lidl protien rolls, most diabetics can't tolerate any cereal or potatoes so I'd advise cutting them asap! I would personally cut the carbs down as low as you can to begin with the most important thing you need to do is to feel well! You will be amazed how quickly you start to feel better in yourself. If you're tempted to eat carbs remind yourself you're likely gonna pay by feeling rotten and ask yourself is it really worth the trade off! Good luck and keep asking for advice, there are some really helpful people on here who've been there got the t-shirt and changed the slogan!
 
Just stick with the forum and if unsure ask as many questions as you like. We have all been there - knowing little about our condition and how to control it better. I was well in the dark at first but now through the forum have gained a lot of insight into diabetes and how I can and have improved things. All I can say is you do need to get your head of the sand and try and motivate yourself to make changes and improve things because what you're describing isn't much fun. Best wishes.
 
Many thanks for you input, I've looked at monitors and there are so many, is there a particular one or two I should lean towards purchasing as I know very little about them, so they need to be approved etc?
Thanks again[/QUOTE]

Welcome Robhj73
If you decide to get the SD Codefree meter from the homehealth site using the link Alzebra gave you. You will need extra test strips, the meter only comes with 10 strips and you will probably get through them in the first day. Here are some discount codes for the strips.
5 packs 264086. --- 10 packs 975833

And this link explains how to use your meter to get your sugar levels under control
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
 
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