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Confused new member

GarryW

Newbie
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi all,
I was diagnosed with type 2 around a month ago and am a bit confused with what I've told by the nurse today.
I went for my first appointment and was given a book pack etc and told to take 1 Metformin a day with breakfast. Went back a week later for a follow up appointment and had my blood tested and despite having not eaten my level was around 9.
I was given a testing kit and asked to monitor myself for a couple of weeks and contact her with the results today. 41 of 73 readings over 8 an average of 9 overall. I was told this looked good and shouldn't worry about testing anymore? Still seems high to me looking at comments on other posts?
 
Welcome, I will ask @daisy1 to provide you with details we give new members. Yes those numbers are a little high but not disasterous. Personally I wouldnt stop testing
 
Welcome, Garry.

They don't tell you much, it's true, but you're now in the right place.

The wonderful Daisy will be able to post something lots of useful stuff. I found it a great help when I was diagnosed a couple of months ago. Given you're not too long diagnosed, 9s aren't too bad. As you change your diet and the meds kick in (if you're on any) your BS figures should fall.

It's good that you have a meter; this will give you back some control. You'll read the phrase "eat to your meter" a lot; what this means is that you can have some fun experimenting with foods while you find out which ones give you a spike.

Over time it will all start making sense. Read a lot, keep asking questions.
 
Hi all,
I was diagnosed with type 2 around a month ago and am a bit confused with what I've told by the nurse today.
I went for my first appointment and was given a book pack etc and told to take 1 Metformin a day with breakfast. Went back a week later for a follow up appointment and had my blood tested and despite having not eaten my level was around 9.
I was given a testing kit and asked to monitor myself for a couple of weeks and contact her with the results today. 41 of 73 readings over 8 an average of 9 overall. I was told this looked good and shouldn't worry about testing anymore? Still seems high to me looking at comments on other posts?

Welcome to the forum @GarryW I was diagnosed earlier this year so I remember the confusion. Although worrying I found great support from the people in this forum. I started on Metformin (doc prescribed without discussion), but after 4 months managed to get myself off it. For me low carb diet and exercise works well. I test daily (often several times) to understand how different foods affect me - it's a learning curve but not so hard once you get going.

Best of luck. If you can spend some time searching and reading the forum - I found it very helpful. And ask whatever you need to, someone has been there and will help you.

Most of all just remember, you may have to change your diet, get active, and change your lifestyle but diabetes can be controlled if you are determined.
 
Hi Garry

Most practices will want your blood glucose levels to be between 4.0 - 7.0 mmol/l. However, levels of 8 and 9's aren't bad, and are still reasonable. With being a diabetic, and particularly recently diagnosed, it is difficult to maintain your blood sugars in such a narrow limit of 4.0 - 7.0, so allow some flexibility outside of this range.

I don't advise to stop testing your blood sugar levels as it will mean you won't have any indication as to when you may potentially be hypoglycaemia or hyperglycaemia. The purpose of testing your sugar levels is to have better management and control of your diabetes.

I hope you find it a bit easier to understand soon!
 
Hi @GarryW and welcome.
When were you testing? My results were a lot higher when first diagnosed. I found testing before a meal and 2 hours after helped me to see how that meal impacted on my blood sugars. I recorded everything, meals and blood results so I could look back and identify the foods which didn't help me. We are all different but I couldn't manage any cereal for breakfast and as soon as I cut that out my very high readings started to come down, I would encourage you to continue testing at least until you know what foods work for you and what foods are better avoided.
 
Morning all, thank you all for your responses.
Just couldn't get my head around why if my HbA1c blood results came back as 9.3 and the AgaMatrix app calculated all my 70+ tests to an average of 9.2 even after being on Metformin and changes to my diet (lower carb) the nurse decided it was ok.
I shall carry on reading through all the good advise on here and see how it goes
Thanks again.
 
GarryW

Hello Garry and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. It will give you a lot of advice about carbs and a link to the Low Carb Program. Ask as many questions as you want and someone
will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Morning all, thank you all for your responses.
Just couldn't get my head around why if my HbA1c blood results came back as 9.3 and the AgaMatrix app calculated all my 70+ tests to an average of 9.2 even after being on Metformin and changes to my diet (lower carb) the nurse decided it was ok.
I shall carry on reading through all the good advise on here and see how it goes
Thanks again.

The HbA1c is an average (of sorts) over 2 to 3 months. Your finger prick tests are just snapshots of what you were at the time. Your levels will fluctuate every few seconds throughout the day and night, so unless you test every 5 minutes you will not get a true average. Also the HbA1c is measured in different units from the finger pricks. An HbA1c of 9.3 equates to an average finger prick test of 12.2mmol/l

( http://www.diabetes.co.uk/hba1c-to-blood-sugar-level-converter.html )

Metformin does very little to lower levels. Diet is the key.
 
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