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andym3081

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Hi everyone I was diagnosed with Type 2 on Thursday and am not seeing a diabetic nurse until the 11 June. Have been looking at the app for the last couple of days but at the moment I feel as thought there is just too much to take in and I am in a state of limbo until I've seen the nurse. Anyone suggest the way forward for me


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Read up what you can before your dn appointment and write down what you want to know. Ask to be referred to a Desmond course for type 2 or Dafne course for type 1 she should check your feet and you should be referred for retinal screening, I know it all sounds pretty daunting but try not to worry,should also get some diet advice . I read up on the main site and asked about a lot of things I wanted cleared up. Good luck and try not to let it get you down the earlier it can be diagnosed the sooner it can be got under control and can prevent or delay the onset of complications . All the best


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Poor you. We've all been there, you're not alone.

I'm only one month in so I'm no expert, but you might want to think about lowering your carb intake. It's working for me and for lots of other people on this site. It doesn't make it go away, but it does make it easier to manage.

There's loads of info on the web site and here in the forum. There is a lot. I didn't try to take it all in, I just went looking for the answers to specific questions at first, then started to explore further.

Hope that helps. X


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Hi Andy and welcome to the forum :)

I appreciate that you have found it is all too much to take in, but this information which we give to new members should help you. Just ask as many questions as you like as there are lots of members who can help you out.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi, Welcome to the forum.
It is indeed very confusing at first, there is an awful lot to learn, so read a lot, it's a lot to take in but will all become clearer the more you understand and the only way is to read up, I was obsessed with it, try to take a break from thinking about it from time to time, it gets easier to cope with, any questions please ask us, lots of really nice people here that will try to help, appointments with dn's are a lot better when. You already know what they are going to say, and you can then choose which bits you agree with rather than swallowing everything they say, try to not panic, life is going to go on diabetes or not, you just need some more knowledge so you can decide which way to control it, because it will need some controlling one way or another, my personal opinion would be to read up on low carb diet, it has worked wonders for me but is against what some medical professionals advise so if you know about it, when they tell you to eat carbs you can nod and smile then ignore the advice without not knowing what to do, but that's just me, you need to read up on everything then decide what you think is right, it's hard at first but things will get easier I promise, very much good luck!

Ps. Daisy's advice was like someone turning on the lights for me, it literally saved my life so have a look :)
 
Andy a good start would be to start recording what you eat and when. If you have a smart phone there are some good apps apart from this one of course. MyFitnessPal is good for recording your food and drink consumption but be honest. Depending on whether you can afford it get a blood sugar testing monitor from somewhere like boots which will typically cost anything from about £15 or you can get them off eBay but they will take a few days to arrive. iBGStar is a good app to record results.

Watch the relationship between your food intake and bs level - test before each meal and 2 hours afterwards. This will help you put together a picture of how what affects you. Often carbs lead to an increase in bs level and exercise leads to a fall but obviously it is not quite that simple.

The important thing is not to worry too much as that will not help - if you need a steer there is always someone on here willing to gel.


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Hi. Yes, review your diet and control your carbs and portion sizes. Go for low-GI carbs where you can. Your nurse probably won't provide a meter and may say you don't need one; you do and if you need to get hold of one and the test strips ask one of the manufacturers for a free meter and buy the strips off the web. Good luck.
 
Hi

I was diagnosed Saturday but it wasn't a surprise as they did a repeat Hba1c and a glucose tolerance test before diagnosis.

I have been reading on the forum and was tempted by low carbing especially as I discovered a few weeks ago that gluten and rice disagree with me.

I also invested in my own blood glucose monitor - though husband thinks I'm a hypochondriac! I was shocked by how easily I could up my blood sugar by eating bread and potatoes and I would like to think if I had known 20 years ago what I know now I wouldn't have a BMI over 40. GP still followed line I don't need to test however I feel that without the prompting from high levels I will slip back into old habits. At the moment I am not being prescribed anything.

I now have to see the practice nurse and get booked on a Desmond course. Logically I am seeing this all positively as the amount of support I get will increase, emotionally its still a bit raw.

Good luck on your journey

Cath


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