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constant hunger

Hi Michael, Your current diet seems to be quite high in carbs which naturally make you feel hungry so it might be an idea to try substituting some of the carbs for protein which staves off hunger better and for longer.
If you do some reading on the forum you will see lots of good advice about meals and food types which should help.
Good luck and keep us informed.
 
Janiept said:
Hi Michael, Your current diet seems to be quite high in carbs which naturally make you feel hungry so it might be an idea to try substituting some of the carbs for protein which staves off hunger better and for longer.
If you do some reading on the forum you will see lots of good advice about meals and food types which should help.
Good luck and keep us informed.
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I'm seen that said before?
How exactly do carbs make you feel hungry?
 
Janiept said:
I think this might explain it better than I can. I have changed to high protein and lo carb and it has definitely helped me

http://wellnessmama.com/5356/cravings-fix-your-leptin/
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Doesn't really explain how carbs make you hungry,

"Get outside during the day, preferably barefoot on the ground,"

mmm, probably not one for me I'm afraid.

I do agree with his advice here though.

"Eating little to no simple starches, refined foods, sugars and fructose"

I do eat low GI, and find I don't get hungry.

Leptin, and insulin are both issues though.

http://eattoperform.com/2013/05/10/myth-insulin-makes-you-hungry/

for a fairly opposing view
 
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No you're probably right Douglas. As I understand it, when you eat carbs your body produces leptin which in turn makes you hungry.
 
michaelp1888 said:
thanks Dawn I am eating 3 wheetabix for breakfast anything i can lay my hands on before tea time normal tea eg mince and potatoes veg curry and chips sausage and chips then 2 slice of toast ion the evening before bed but inbetween this i am always hungry cant control the hunger
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Have you been told anything about how carbs like toast, wheetabix, chips and potatoes in general affects your blood sugar? There are ways of controlling bg and at the same time eating enough to keep you satiated. Very few of us can stand to be constantly hungry for a long time. I know I can´t.

Look into the low-carb section of the forum. The Dietdoctor is also a useful site, one of many, on low-carbing: http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
 
Mud Island Dweller said:
lf you are a standard t2 no other problems have a read of the low carb forum.

l have 2 scrambled eggs for breakfast sometimes have some bacon with it and am not hungry till lunch

Salad and cheese and some thin peperami at lunch and raspberries and cream...stopped yogurt as spiking me despite only about 3g carbs/100g product.

Dinner a meat of some sort with veg usually 2 sorts about 50gram each.

Carbs n cals is an excellent book full size not pocket. Not sure on the app..

A digital scales to weigh each type of food

And you definatly need a meter to see what is happening with your bloods
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Mud Island Dweller said:
lf you are a standard t2 no other problems have a read of the low carb forum.

l have 2 scrambled eggs for breakfast sometimes have some bacon with it and am not hungry till lunch

Salad and cheese and some thin peperami at lunch and raspberries and cream...stopped yogurt as spiking me despite only about 3g carbs/100g product.

Dinner a meat of some sort with veg usually 2 sorts about 50gram each.

Carbs n cals is an excellent book full size not pocket. Not sure on the app..

A digital scales to weigh each type of food

And you definatly need a meter to see what is happening with your bloods
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Hope this isn't too nosy Mud Island, but you state you are on Metformin, were diagnosed in Nov 2013 and in Feb 2014 your A1c was 37 mmol/mol. 37 is a normal, not even prediabetic range isn't it? Obviously that is good but how come you are diagnosed T2? What were your readings in Nov 2013? Was it the metformin that sorted it, yet that is only a small dose isn't it? I'm prediabetic myself with an A1c 12 mths ago of 41 mmol/mol or 5.9%. Had it done again in Jan and it was the same. Dr says that as I lost weight a year ago and did all sorts of lifestyle changes which should have lowered it, my A1c will rise and he'll have metformin for me . He seems convinced I can't prevent it rising as I've already done so much. I'm thinking of getting a meter and testing but haven't actually done so yet. Don't really know what to do for the best. I do lead an active life but find I'm getting increasingly tired which I think is a symptom of T2 if not prediabetes.
 
Can not remember the start numbers l have huge blank spots. Given how l felt and had been building since my husband passed..l thought due to a misguidance from the gyno it was menopause l don't doubt it is diabetes. I just figured menopause get your head in line and quit winging, it was only in November that l couldn't handle it any more and went to the dr and ...t2

Since then l do an awful lot of exercise, my diet is very strict from Xmas, until then l was trying low GI and sort of lower carb Now l am full low carb and the difference between low gi and low carb is stunning. l do not have any sugar substitutes, bread, pasta, four, spuds etc I measured my food but now ok for most of the regular items re weight. Lot of testing l am lucky so far the dr is supplying my sticks.

my body fat has gone from 28% to 17% and l am loosing about 1% body fat a week, l don't weigh myself as l will be putting muscle on and that will give me a youo weight as fat goes and muscle builds.

If l am not careful l see my bloods go up l can not eat the 3g/100 lydyl yogurt l have found that pushes my lunch time post 2hrs to 6.5(ish) from around 4.9/5.1

I don't know if l will get worse l am sure there will be up and downs, my dr informed me when he told me that l would deteriorate and l would end up on insulin...if l wasnt careful. He was a hive of fun.

Control for me is about very low carb 20-30g/day and being really strict and exercise. When told l just shrugged my shoulders and got on with sorting myself l have learnt that some things like mum, dad, Brian dying and other s**t that has happened since 2010 l can not affect this l can so what's to get upset about. (except when l feel l have failed like not having chance to do much exercise last 3 weeks l get upset)
And if l am tempted to eat something naughty l ignore the diabetes and just think of all the fat l have lost,how proud Brian, mum, Dad and my new hub and guardian Angels are and l do not intend to go back to fat :)
 
Been diabetic fifteen years now and understand the hunger pangs and also time when I just didn't want to eat but had to with the meds.

Anyway my tummy fillers are closed cooked Brown basmati rice, one portion of this 40G fills me for breakfast until lunch. Cooking tip measure out rice you want e.g. 250g wash and soak for at least one hour, pour off water rinse and shake off as much of excess water as poss, place in pan with double the amount of water to rice e.g. 250g rice 500ml water in a good pan with a heavy lid, bring to the boil rapidly, stir once cover drop heat to one, after 20min turn off heat shake pan without removing lid leave on stove for 5 more minutes and its ready to serve.

Yogert has been mentioned in other posts, I make my own in a Lakeland yogert maker, but shop purchased is as good for this one. line a cullender with a clean J cloth, pour in two pots of your chosen natural 500g/ml in to the lined cullender placed over an appropriate receptacle; and let the whey run off. Depending on yogert used will determine how fast the whey separates so choose thin yogert over thick. I leave mine between one hour and three days in the fridge by which point its a very thick cream which is curd protein. If you use/or make this with fat free, then this curd is fat free, I have added a little salt & mixed herbs as a dip of filler. I have also add sweetener and mixed it with home made (sugar free) lemon curd as a cake filler and often as a desert and its incredibly filling and not at all guilt reden even if you just eat it off a spoon. Enjoy Any questions PM me
 
soonerlover said:
I have started the metformin 2 day and I am eating us out of house and home. Never felt this way before .
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Hi there and welcome to the Forum! This is an old thread though, soonerlover, so the folks who have been discussing this may not be around on the Forum any longer to respond...

My thoughts though - your details say type 1, but you are on a standard type two medication, so I am wondering if it was a mistake? and you are indeed a type two. Type two is a metabolic disease, and an insulin resistance based disease, if that is 'your type of diabetes', is a dietary one, basically, where your environment works with your body type on your blood glucose regulation system for better or worse. And to make matters more complex, we all have different responses and reactions to different foods and so on, and medications, generally. Although of course there are patterns that hold true for all of us with either a metabolic disease or an auto immune disease (different patterns for different diseases.)

Anyway, hunger is one of those things that differs a lot between people. So your level of hunger, and how you experience it is one of those individual things that you work out your treatment with. I know this has been true for me. I usually feel hunger very keenly (it's hormone and enzyme in the stomach driven as far as I know, for all of us) and come from a family who do and are enthusiastic eaters. This is not uncommon of course. Metformin affects me by being an appetite suppressant - a big surprise (I had Type two for eight years before taking metformin). I take it from this thread, and information on metformin that this affect differs largely between different people. So it just might affect you by increasing your experience of hunger. Sounds like it.

I personally would not bother about portion control at this stage of your diabetes journey, if ever. Concentrate on lowering the carbohydrates, and upping your protein and healthy fat to fill you up and keep you nourished. And buy as fresh food as you can afford. Keep yourself well fed while you are changing your carb-consumption - that's hard enough without deliberately going hungry I would think! anyway. That's my two cents worth.
 
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