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JanWoo

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Can anyone suggest a good cookbook. I spent £20 on Worral-Thompsons "Essential diabetic cookbook" but it is far too fussy, ingredients I have never heard of. I just want something that tells me simple meals that will fit in with diabetes.

Any suggestions on how I can find out what a carbohydrate unit is. ~The diet course I attended said aim for 10 units a day, but other than being told a digestive biscuit or an apple are one unit I am lost.
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Jan
 
Hi JanWoo

I see you are Type 2 - are you on insulin or any other meds, that you're looking at carb 'units'? That's something I know nothing about, so someone else will have to help.

If you are wanting to control your carb intake and eat less carbs, you don't really need to worry about special menus - in my opinion at any rate. Just eat what you would normally eat, but reduce your intake of bread/potatoes/pasta/rice, and increase your intake of lower-carb veg to compensate. There are some very sweet fruits, also bananas, that you should be wary of (smaller portions), and if you like baking, cakes etc and puddings - well, you're going to have to learn what you can and can't eat.

The best way is to get a meter and some test strips (preferably from your doctor on prescription) and test immediately before and 2 hours after every meal, to see what effect different foods have on your blood glucose. You'll soon learn what you can safely eat, and what has to be reserved for an occasional treat. A carb counter book, eg Collins Gem (not the very best, but portable) is really useful. You can use that to work out how many carbs you're eating now, and see where you can cut back.

There's lots of useful info on the Low-Carb Forum here; also read the 'Information for Newbies' on 'Greetings and Introductions'.

Hope that helps! Don't be afraid to come back with any questions.

Viv 8)
 
viviennem said:
Hi JanWoo
There's lots of useful info on the Low-Carb Forum here; also read the 'Information for Newbies' on 'Greetings and Introductions'.
Viv 8)

Hi Janwoo and welcome to the forum :)
I'm afraid I don't know anything about carb units - only the grams of carb found in foods which is what I count. But here is a link to the low carb recipes thread which you might find useful:
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=4871

and the link to the Diabetes Food Forum:
viewforum.php?f=3

and here is the information for newbies (written by the former Monitors) which Viv referred to so you don't have to go looking for it:

Here is the advice that Ken and I, as Forum Monitors, usually give to newly diagnosed Diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

For more information on CARBOHYDRATE see here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20306

This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.


As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!

For TIPS FOR STRIPS see here:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19002#p173253

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2011 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking and before meals).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l...(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals........................no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals......................... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do at least 30 minutes moderate exercise a day, it can be split into 10 min sessions to start with. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Finally a few QUESTIONS TO ASK AT DIABETES CLINIC.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091



Sue/Ken.
 
Hi JanWoo and welcome to the forum, good advice as always from Viv and daisy, no one can tell you what you should or shouldnt eat nor what you can or can not eat, you can only find out by testing before and after eating your meals and reducing the carb content till your bg levels are staying within the safe zone laid down by NICE or lower if possible.

The collins gem carb counter or the collins gem GI book are both excellent for telling you what carbs are in which foods and are about a fiver each from amazon or most book shops. I favour the GI book as it not only gives you the carbs of most of the foods you will come across but also the Glycemic Index (GI) of each food as well. The GI is a way of telling us which carbohydrates are better for diabetics in as much as they dont raise the blood glucose (bg) as much as some other carby foods

Link to the The Official Website of the Glycemic Index and GI Database. http://www.glycemicindex.com/
 
JanWoo said:
Can anyone suggest a good cookbook. I spent £20 on Worral-Thompsons "Essential diabetic cookbook" but it is far too fussy, ingredients I have never heard of. I just want something that tells me simple meals that will fit in with diabetes.

I don't have a cook book, looked at a few but couldn't find one that was not diabetic unfriendly in one way or another. Most included sugar and very high cabs in their recepies and still called it "diabetic" food. AFter diagnoses what I did was to eat whatever I wanted and tested my BG levels and by adjusting ther portion sizes I found out what and how much of it I could safely eat without going above the recommended levels. Reducing the portions has not only helped me keep my BG levels in "normal" levels but it also helped me lose 2 stones in weight. Biggest help as far as I am concerned though, was the psychological side of it. I believe it helped me from getting into deep depression because it meant I can still eat anything I want without having to watch others eat what I would otherwise crave for. The onlything I don't eat any longer are sweet thing that have sugar in them ie: chocolates (exept for snickers that seem to agree with me), cakes (except yesterday :oops: ) and sugar in my tea. Everything else I eat in moderation. It might not agree with other diabetics but it helped me to keep controll.

Any suggestions on how I can find out what a carbohydrate unit is. ~The diet course I attended said aim for 10 units a day, but other than being told a digestive biscuit or an apple are one unit I am lost.
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Jan

Don't exactly know what you mean here but if you mean insulin to carbs ratio (units), I am not on insulin and don't know much about it but I have read somewhere that it's 1 unit of insulin per 10 gramms of carbs, if I remember it correctly. But please, if you are on insulin, make sure you speak with your Doctor before you change your dosage, do not take my word for it.
 
Hi Jan,

Your profile says oral medicines only .
If you have been told to aim for 10 units a day and a digestive biscuit is 1 then I would understand by this that you are aiming for 100 carbs per day as a digestive biscuit is 10 carbs. Hope this makes sense to you.

You may find that this is too many carbs or it may be it is ideal for you and the only way you can work this out is by testing your response to foods. Some members here can eat more than that amount. The newbie's guide that Daisy has kindly posted and the information others have given here should help you with food choices.



There is a book called Carbs and Cals, A Visual Guide to Carb counting, £12. 99. which may be useful for you as it shows pictures of everyday foods with their carb content.

Anything you need help with then ask away, somebody will be able to help you.
 
You can get pretty well any recipe that you can find in a book somewhere on line. I often put in an ingredient and then look for one I fancy. BBC Good Food are a favourite of mine.

I then print the recipe off and put it in a folder where I can find it again - and copy into a file of my own called - recipes (not an adventurous title I admit :roll: ).

Cheers
Ailz.
 
Thanks to all for your replies. Yes my profile does say oral meds only but Diabetes UK does not offer me the option to put an injection other than Insulin. I am on Liraglutide (Victoza).
 
Off course i can suggest you, because i am also using cook book for making food at my home. Some of the famous cook book are:
* Hungry girl
* Rustic European Breads from Your Bread Machine
* Make spicy food at your home.
* The Great Scandinavian Baking Book
 
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