covid

[bulkbiker]

so you have no specific reference that relates to covid?
Just a general ‘it happens with some/most/many viruses, so ‘common sense’ means it must be true of covid.

I prefer to wait for actual evidence, since covid behaves in ways that vary significantly from some/most/many viruses.

See second link?

 

[lucylocket61]

Could you provide a reference for that, please?

As I am refuting a claim made by the person I am replying to, the onus is on her to provide proof that her assertion is correct.

Plus : https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html

 

[lucylocket61]

so you have no specific reference that relates to covid?
Just a general ‘it happens with some/most/many viruses, so ‘common sense’ means it must be true of covid.

I prefer to wait for actual evidence, since covid behaves in ways that vary significantly from some/most/many viruses.

edited to add: thank you. Your second post gives an actual study on covid. I will read it now.

edited again, to add: What a pity. The study you linked to is for a minute number of people (compared with, say, the population of Israel, or the UK) over 5 months, they only compared natural immunity with the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine, not the other vaccines, and they used old outdated figures claiming the AZ is only effective at 62.1%. They should update that.
@bulkbiker I still don’t think your blanket claim is validated by that study. Got any more?

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...but-people-may-still-carry-and-transmit-virus

 

[Brunneria]

See second link?

yes thanks. I responded above, and tagged you in.

 

[Dr Snoddy]

If you have had COVID then you have a far better naturally acquired immunity than any artificial vaccine will give you.
Why are you bothered?

Do you have data supporting this statement?

 

[zand]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...but-people-may-still-carry-and-transmit-virus

And this is the main reason I have had the jab.

 

[lucylocket61]

yes thanks. I responded above, and tagged you in.

From the linked SIREN study:

"This means even if you believe you already had the disease and are protected, you can be reassured it is highly unlikely you will develop severe infections but there is still a risk that you could acquire an infection and transmit to others. Now more than ever it is vital we all stay at home to protect our health service and save lives."

Therefore there may be a protection for oneself for an unspecified time, but the risk to others is still there.

 

[bulkbiker]

so you have no specific reference that relates to covid?
Just a general ‘it happens with some/most/many viruses, so ‘common sense’ means it must be true of covid.

I prefer to wait for actual evidence, since covid behaves in ways that vary significantly from some/most/many viruses.

edited to add: thank you. Your second post gives an actual study on covid. I will read it now.

edited again, to add: What a pity. The study you linked to is for a minute number of people (compared with, say, the population of Israel, or the UK) over 5 months, they only compared natural immunity with the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine, not the other vaccines, and they used old outdated figures claiming the AZ is only effective at 62.1%. They should update that.
@bulkbiker I still don’t think your blanket claim is validated by that study. Got any more?

You asked I provided.. I suggest you do some more research yourself if my link wasn't sufficient.

 

[lucylocket61]

For me, protecting others, such as the op is as important as protecting myself.

 

[bulkbiker]

From the linked SIREN study:

"This means even if you believe you already had the disease and are protected, you can be reassured it is highly unlikely you will develop severe infections but there is still a risk that you could acquire an infection and transmit to others. Now more than ever it is vital we all stay at home to protect our health service and save lives."

Therefore there may be a protection for oneself for an unspecified time, but the risk to others is still there.

Just like after having the vaccine?

 

[Dr Snoddy]

Because naturally acquired immunity will always be more effective than injection.

Possibly only if you survive the infection in the first place!

 

[Goonergal]

Thank you @bulkbiker and @lucylocket61 for providing the requested links. This thread is now moving away from the specific question posed by the OP in respect of their situation. Please could that be respected, and more general discussion/debate about the Covid vaccine taken elsewhere? Thanks.


Edited for typo

 

[Goonergal]

All. A couple of posts have been deleted for derailing the thread. Please bear in mind the original post when responding. Thanks.