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Cut out carbs for good?

Cut out carbs for good? If the diabetes fairies visited in the night and cured me, I think I would continue eating the low carb way. I have replaced carby foods with more nutrition foods.

Rice = cauliflower
pasta = courgette
Wheat flour = nuts

What's not to like? I will stay this way.
 
Brunneria said:
Mine isn't.

Have to disagree with that sweeping statement.
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Avocado Sevenfold said:
I agree. Life style? I drive a VW and listen to Team Rock Radio. These are life style choices. Diabetes - not so much.
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I agree - diabetes was forced upon me - so hardly a choice there! However, my choice of a low carb diet as a consequence has been a lifestyle choice. And if I'd actually heeded all the so called healthy advice about eating low fat and plenty of carbs instead, I may well have spent more of my life as a diabetic.

Robbity
 
Indy51 said:
Fatty liver can also be related to the consumption of seed oils and foods high in omega 6 according to George Henderson:
http://hopefulgeranium.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/fatty-liver-and-its-treatment.html
(it's also worthwhile following the links in his blogpost for further reading)
http://hopefulgeranium.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/my-dietary-recommendations-for-liver.html
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I have 7 walnuts a day. Coconut oil. Nothing processed at all. The only addition I have is a teaspoon of flaxseed and chia seed. These I have to have as they stop my slow colonic transit affecting me. I have extra virgin olive oil. I don't eat any pasta, or anything with grains in. We now eat fish though 3 to 4 times a week but this will be cod x2, plaice or haddock x 1 and salmon 1 perhaps 2 if I don't have 2 days of cod. But this would be full on omega 3! I have one garlic oil tablet each day.
I have a few scrapings of feta cheese. Tomorrow and most weeks we have a fillet steak with veg and butter. Sometimes I do have pork belly slices though....once every 4 weeks if that. I eat about 6 eggs a week.
I eat a small bowl of fresh fruit- mango, orange. Kiwi, apple, banana most nights with a juice. This bowl when made last 3 days between the 2 of us. So it really is a small bowl.

So as far as I see I probably don't have enough omega 6! The last time I ate poultry was Christmas.
 
@donnellysdogs

Hi, just a query. I have probably misread your post, but am I right that you are eating cod for the omega 3?
Only cod is a white, low fat fish. The healthy oils in cod are found in the liver, not the flesh.
Beneficial fish oils are found in oily fish (usually grey or pink fleshed) like makeral (sp?), tuna, herring, sardines and of course salmon.

Sorry if I DID misunderstand you.
 
Brunneria said:
@donnellysdogs

Hi, just a query. I have probably misread your post, but am I right that you are eating cod for the omega 3?
Only cod is a white, low fat fish. The healthy oils in cod are found in the liver, not the flesh.
Beneficial fish oils are found in oily fish (usually grey or pink fleshed) like makeral (sp?), tuna, herring, sardines and of course salmon.

Sorry if I DID misunderstand you.
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I don't eat cod for omega 3 just aware that salmon they only recommend once or twice a week. I'm swapping one day next week from cod to a mackeral... I've never liked mackeral before.. However if I can now eat avocado and olives I thought I'd give it a try.

I used to eat crustless quiche by higgeldy piggeldy but still found the minimal pastry caused slow colonic again. So the cod replaced this.

One day a week I have heck sausages/eggs/tomatoes..or spinach with poached eggs..
Or corned beef salad etc..

I do have probably 2 full cups of milk a day with my coffees...

Walnuts n 2sq dark choc as well.. This is day in day out. Week in week out...

Mainly in winter I may have a blueberry muffin made from ground almonds.

That is it. The only the I veered off this is really going on to pump 5 years ago and being advised to have porridge for breakfast or toast. I used to have chicken casserole in winter-no potatoes.. But I don't actually really enjoy chicken and can't stand the sight or smell of it in fridge or cooking...I tried coffee with cream and more cheese but that again besides not liking the total chilesterol that went up.. I didn't really enjoy it.

I am odd. I admit it.
 
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Thanks - that makes more sense.

Kippers are good too. but I avoid the luminous yellow ones! And I supplement with krill oil. fab stuff.

:)
 
Would you think I need to supplement? I do have lashing of extra virgin oil dressing and up to a full avocado and 8 olives a day now!! So I could try kippers but I could not face yellow coloured ones as they just look artificial:(:(

Got to admit I haven't heard of kril oil.
 
Avocado Sevenfold said:
Cut out carbs for good? If the diabetes fairies visited in the night and cured me, I think I would continue eating the low carb way. I have replaced carby foods with more nutrition foods.

Rice = cauliflower
pasta = courgette
Wheat flour = nuts

What's not to like? I will stay this way.
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You're not wrong.... and with you.
 
donnellysdogs said:
Would you think I need to supplement? I do have lashing of extra virgin oil dressing and up to a full avocado and 8 olives a day now!! So I could try kippers but I could not face yellow coloured ones as they just look artificial:(:(

Got to admit I haven't heard of kril oil.
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Naturally smoked kippers and haddock are really way better than the artificial.... not so easy to find, even in CE Scotland....grrrr.
 
Oh... Just the mention of courgettes just reminded me.. When mine are in garden I have courgette lasagne. Can't wait for my asapargus to be cuttable next year... Do get a little change with veal or venison meatballs with homemade sauce sometimes too.. Can't wait for the courgettes now!!

Going to have a look for naturally smoked now...

Where do you get your krill supplements from?
 
donnellysdogs said:
Would you think I need to supplement? I do have lashing of extra virgin oil dressing and up to a full avocado and 8 olives a day now!! So I could try kippers but I could not face yellow coloured ones as they just look artificial:(:(

Got to admit I haven't heard of kril oil.
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Have a read online. Very impressed with krill oil write ups. :)
I got mine from eBay, but checked the brand was reputable, and the date was ok before placing the order.

Can't really advise you on supplements, cos opinions and personal needs differ so much.
My personal view is that the brain (my brain) uses omega 3, and I want it staying as sharp as poss!
 
Brunneria said:
Have a read online. Very impressed with krill oil write ups. :)
I got mine from eBay, but checked the brand was reputable, and the date was ok before placing the order.

Can't really advise you on supplements, cos opinions and personal needs differ so much.
My personal view is that the brain (my brain) uses omega 3, and I want it staying as sharp as poss!
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Thank you :)
 
nosher8355 said:
I believe that recent dietary advice for professional sportsmen, to avoid dietary complications later such as T2 and RH, they are getting advised not to bulk up on refined carbs. Sports drinks are not helping them either. It has been found that water and a low carb intake are sufficient for any activity including long distance, weightlifting and team games.

Depending on which dietician you talk of course!

I discovered most of this reading recent article on RH diagnosed ex athletes. Which is being found to be more prevalent if and when diagnosed.
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Yes. At our gym, no one takes refined carbs, sports drinks (a strict no no) or even processed foods. Most professional body builders eat high protein (shakes to meats), raw foods (legumes, sprouts). I have not seen 6-packers eating too much bread. At the gym, almonds, walnuts and peanuts are available for sale, besides protein shakes; and of course water. Basically any guy who comes into gym spends about 60 to 90 minutes on average and by the time he/she leaves the gym - a lot of sweat can be seen. BUT, usually we do not go on binge eating! unless it is a cheat day in the routine.

Coming to the topic of this thread: cut out carbs (do not make zero, we do need carbs) take to the minimum needs. Never accept carbs from refined foods, free sugars etc.
 
Hi Mekalu2k4 - I think it is wonderful what you are doing - going for prevention.

But just to pitch in - I think what Brunneria and so on are saying is that having T2D is not a lifestyle choice - we - as it is me included - are objecting to is the phrase - using 'lifestyle' like having this health condition is something we choose like types of music and fashion - even if it comes from wikipedia and the medical profession! (I bet all those sibs and your parents would agree too!)

I heard a lecture online by Peter Osbourne I think it was, calling T2D 'self-induced' and I have been rightly ****** off ever since, even though he perhaps has his heart and head in the right place. No-one chooses this condition. It's not like choosing a car, or a career. And I know I want diabetes-free people to be more careful with how they refer to T2D. Especially when talking to us.
 
nosher8355 said:
I believe that recent dietary advice for professional sportsmen, to avoid dietary complications later such as T2 and RH, they are getting advised not to bulk up on refined carbs. Sports drinks are not helping them either. It has been found that water and a low carb intake are sufficient for any activity including long distance, weightlifting and team games.

Depending on which dietician you talk of course!

I discovered most of this reading recent article on RH diagnosed ex athletes. Which is being found to be more prevalent if and when diagnosed.
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Hi nosher8355

Any chance this article you've mentioned is available online? I used to be very athletic (training up to 4 hours a day) & whilst I was never a big 'carb loader' as such I have often wondered if my training regime didn't somehow lead to my blood sugar issues.

cheers,
safi
 
Calling a disease a lifestyle disease implies that living in a certain way causes it, and changing the way you live will either prevent or remove the disease.

There is an argument for saying that some T2s can 'reverse' D through weight loss and exercise. And most can massively improve BG by carb control. But the majority of people don't develop T2 living that same over weight, sedentary, high carb lifestyle. This is a numerical fact. Calling it 'lifestyle' is an inaccurate over simplification.

Also, there are MANY T2s (myself included) who have developed T2 through genetics, other medical conditions, drug interactions or drug complications, environmental factors or injury.

The idea that T2s cause their D by lifestyle is widespread in the media, the medical profession and (sadly) amongst diabetics. But that is no reason to perpetuate the myth and carry on the blame game.
 
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