Hi @snofleck. Check out the type 2 forum, there is loads of advice on how you can get your diabetes under better control. Might be worth considering LCHF, I know this sounds crazy given that you're trying to avoid high fat and cholesterol but LCHF can actually reduce cholesterol levels...you will find quite a lot of info on this in the LCHF forum. Take a look...see what you think. Hopefully someone in a similar position will be able to advise you better than I can.diagnosed a year and definately on burn out - ****** off completely that i avoid high fat/colesterol and nothing changes....still doing morning checks and getting 10.5! Taking 4 horse tablets daily (2000 mg metaformin) soooooo tired. eyesight is shyte! everything is blurred and shadowy.....tis like watching everyone in a black and white readybrek advert....definately NOT lol. am i losing my marbles or just diabetic
thanks Natalie - bit of a downer last night - sooo ****** off. but wil look at this link and see...many thanksHi @snofleck. Check out the type 2 forum, there is loads of advice on how you can get your diabetes under better control. Might be worth considering LCHF, I know this sounds crazy given that you're trying to avoid high fat and cholesterol but LCHF can actually reduce cholesterol levels...you will find quite a lot of info on this in the LCHF forum. Take a look...see what you think. Hopefully someone in a similar position will be able to advise you better than I can.
This is brilliant. Diabetes can be such a devastating illness. Not just for the person with it but also the sufferers loved ones and kin. It can destroy relationships !
I had an Aunt who had Type 1 diabetes for a nunmber of years and she was a truly laid back lovely human being. She suffered severe burnout about ten years ago. She just lost the motivation to live and ended up having a breakdown and was sectioned under the mental health act.
I have no idea where she is now, the entire family moved on and informed no one. All very sad.
It wasn't until 10 or so years ago that I realised this existed, I saw a leaflet at my diabetes clinic and it summarised everything written in the above post.
I suffer with GAD (Generalised Anxiety Disorder) and this can add to my diabetes worries. Any other long term (or indeed short term) illness can add or be a trigger for burnout.
It's quite a vicious cycle when your actually in it as you lose heart and perspective. You begin to mistreat your diabetes and then as complications start taking effect or getting worse the motivation to get on top of things just dissipates and bad control escalates and so on and so on.
It is paramount to seek advice and help from expertise outside the diabetes arena. I attended CBT for my chronic GAD and have tools today that I use when I start losing the motivation to accomplish things through fear and I also have support for other areas that I can sometime struggle with such as being in recovery from alcohol dependence. I now have this Forum for the diabetes.
Everything is down to good diabetes control and the motivation to get on top of things when things start to get on top of you.
The key to motivation for me is to look at how far I have come rather than how far I have to go and this I believe to be a good mantra regarding this illness.
Positivity and the willingness to accept support when struggling is a must. I can not afford to get sucked into a depressive cycle that could eventually lead to mental breakdown, loss of limbs, kidney and heart failure or blindness. Actually, just reminding myself of those things I find quite motivating.
Important to keep it in the day and not to look too far ahead. Keep it in the "now"
I am writing this and it is "now"
This time next week and in a months time it will be "now"
This time in 10 years time it will be "now"
And when I am lying on my death bed it will still be "now"
As it will always be "now" "now" is the only thing I need learn to respond to !
KevFitz
I have been diabetic for 13 years and just starting to get the hang of it but iv gone blind in my left eye have multiple problems that get me down and depressed now and again but I've never gave up and don't u give up to
@Living-by-the-beach
I'm not a religious person but God bless your soul and thanks you for helping people
I forgot to say I'm type 1 and struggle most days but I will beat this disease before it beats me it is always waiting for us to make a mistake never give it a chance I was in the hospitals years ago for a cataract operation after multiple operations on my eyes
I met a old woman that I thought I had it bad but after seeing her I've only scratched the surface on it and I gave her a hug and when I left the hospital I couldn't stop crying how lucky I was and it still haunts me to this day so don't let it beat you because that's what it wants and thanks to this group I'm stronger already
God bless everyone that's trying to beat it
Ps
Keep battling on and on
I don't know about diabetes burnout as such... I think it is more bad health burnout for me. I get sick of juggling everything and nothing is happy with other things. I've seen 2 clinical psychs in the past and realistically they really don't know what to say to people who are chronically ill. Also since beginning of 2012 I can't even talk properly so I had to cancel seeing my clinical psych then because I literally can't handle sitting there for 50 minute session talking and paying $200+ for it. I know I still need counselling for what I'm dealing with. I recognise I'm dealing with depression right now. But there is no help for people like myself who have limitations. I requested to do counselling via online chat... nope they want you in person to talk don't they or on the phone or Skype to talk. It's not until you have trouble talking that you realise how much we rely on it for communication, also makes you realise how much help you can't get too. Diabetes out of everything I have is the condition that is considered controlled for me. My endo sees me every 6 months just to keep tabs on my overall health. While I recognise that one condition can burn you out... it's when you start getting multiple diagnoses (which I'm sure some of you would have) that you really start feeling a lot more pressure. It has impacted my entire life... I can no longer work full time hours (they're pushing to reduce my hours too), I can't socialise, I crash every few days literally where I struggle to do anything, I can't just have a conversation without my voice going and/or throats spasms that can last days. My communication is now mostly online or by texting. I tried using a phone app to talk for me but people have no patience with me. When I'm out in public I get stared at, laughed at, and inappropriate comments because of my chronic burping. Oh it's fun being sick isn't it. lol. I have to see the funny side or I'll cry. My endo let me know I have free access to a social work at the hospital if needed... but seriously what can they do other than force me to talk? I manage ok... just having to adapt to my life with chronic illnesses. I have my faith in God which is my constant for me.... that helps more than anything especially considering the closed doors I've had seeking help. My family says go for a long walk in the hope it will make me feel better... yeh well I need access to toilets (bladder & bowel issues) and long walks actually cause me a lot more pain... movement in general triggers a lot of symptoms on me or makes them worse. But of course that isn't helpful for my diabetes management. As for my diabetes management, I'm on my own. I don't live with family. If I hypo and don't wake up then I guess someone will find me eventually... but I try and not think of that. I know my doc said my liver will save me mostly but the liver can eventually fail at that. oops sorry, venting here. But hopefully someone here relates to what I'm on about. Even though there is burnout... you have to keep going and you don't always have access to help.
For anyone going through tough times regarding their diabetes management and from reading on the forum how some younger type 1 members really, really struggle, this is a must read for all.Remember you are not alone.
Connecting people with diabetes
Putting the Brakes on Diabetes Burnout
Helen Edwards; Founder and Director Diabetes Counselling Onlinewww.diabetescounselling.com.au
Diabetes burn out is a common problem for many people, but what is it? Basically this occurs when you grow very tired of managing your diabetes. You might experience feelings of exhaustion and instead of sticking to your regular blood glucose checks, medications, exercise, insulin and other self care tasks, you only do them partially or possibly neglect them altogether for a period of time. It is more than just having a bad day. You just can’t seem to muster the motivation to keep on managing and the guilt and stress about what this is doing to your body just builds up…..adding to your distress.
The challenge for people living with diabetes and this includes family members and caregivers, is to walk the fine line between stress and worry about diabetes, with feeling comfortable about where diabetes sits in your life. You need to try and have perspective about what your goals are and what you can realistically manage at this moment. When you balance this you are able to better manage under times of stress and prevent burn out. One of the biggest things that can help is to have good support. This includes from family, friends, other people with diabetes and your health care team. Exercise and relaxation strategies really help. Learning mindfulness, which teaches you to worry less and be present in your daily life helps to reduce anxiety and distress. Being able to feel in control and have a tool kit for what to do when things feel like they may be getting out of control in any aspect of your life really makes a difference. Diabetes is not just about your blood glucose and stress and problems in other areas of life will have an impact on you control. So it is important to make sure you stay healthy in all areas of your life and keep on top of stress.
Diabetes is different to other chronic disease as it requires self management by you on a daily even hourly basis, with guidance from your health care team. It can be easy to become overwhelmed by all the tasks you need to do and the day to day effort needed to manage. Burn out is particularly likely if you work really hard at managing your diabetes but the results are not what you would like. It is also more likely when you have pressure or stress in other areas of your life that you feel you can not control. Diabetes burn out can last a short time, be ongoing, or can come and go. Studies have shown that a majority of people living with diabetes do experience worries, fears and negative feelings at some stage. Some high risk times where you may experience burn out due to added stress or changes in your life include:
The recent 2011 study Diabetes MILES which surveyed over 3000 adults with diabetes in Australia found that overall, people were least satisfied with their health, as compared to other aspects of their life. Adults with type 2 diabetes who were using insulin had lower levels of satisfaction across all life areas (e.g. health, relationships, safety, standard of living) as compared to adults with type 1 diabetes or with those who had type 2 diabetes but were not using insulin. Adults with type 2 diabetes who were using insulin were also more likely to experience moderate to severe symptoms of depression and anxiety than other respondents. Moderate to severe depressive symptoms affected 35% of adults with type 2 on insulin, as compared to 22% of those with type 1 and 23% of those with type 2 who were not using insulin. Moderate to severe anxiety symptoms also affected 19% of adults with type 2 who were using insulin, as compared to 15% of those with type 1 and 14% of those with type 2 non-insulin-managed diabetes. Adults with type 1 diabetes were more likely to experience severe diabetes-related distress than other respondents. 28% of adults with type 1 diabetes experienced severe distress, as compared to 22% of people with type 2 insulin-managed and 17% of type 2 non insulin-managed diabetes. The most commonly reported problem area for respondents (consistent across diabetes types and treatment regimens) was worrying about the future and the development of diabetes related complications.
- If you are not meeting diabetes targets, frustration with lack of movement towards your health goals
- Experiencing family/relationship problems, breakdown or violence
- Transition or times of change in your life
- Loss of someone you care about or other grief/loss
- Experiencing poverty or homelessness
- Drug and alcohol problems
- Problems with work and financial stress
- Other physical or mental health problems – such as another chronic disease, depression, mental illness, eating disorders
- Pregnancy – planning pregnancy and trying to conceive, during pregnancy and parenting when you have diabetes yourself
- Growing older and dealing with changes to your body, your health and your diabetes
- Diagnosis of diabetes complications
Rates of diabetes related distress are high yet people are often scared to ask for help, particularly if they have not been managing well. It is important that you DO ask for help and remember there is no such thing as a silly question! Most of us get tired of doing everyday tasks and diabetes sure adds to those! Few people can maintain all the tasks of diabetes care week-in, week-out AND keep blood glucose and HbA1c’s in the narrow target range all the time. Without realistic expectations and practical strategies for managing the thoughts, feelings and emotional side of diabetes, the risk of burnout is higher. The way we think and talk about diabetes has a major impact on how we feel and manage diabetes. Using words like “ high and low” blood glucose instead of “good and bad” can help and so does using CHECK instead of the word TEST when talking about blood glucose monitoring. The reality is most people have an immediate reaction to a high or low BGL. That is normal and fine, but once you have this reaction move on to looking at the number and working out how to manage this and prevent it in the future if possible.
Seven Steps to dealing with Burn out
Support is vital. Make sure you get this from a variety of sources:
- Consider what particular areas of diabetes are causing you problems – usually it is not all of it! Then develop steps for sorting these areas. Get help if needed.
- What else is happening in your life that might be conflicting with diabetes care, or making it harder?
- How might you address these things?
- What are your expectations for your diabetes management? Do you need to lower or increase your expectations?
- What sorts of thoughts and feelings are you having about diabetes/
- How are you managing these and are these strategies working? What have you tried?
- Do you have any support? Is it the right support? Is it enough support? If not, how can you get this?
Diabetes might thrive on maths – to be corrected and added up BUT You are not a maths problem! See yourself as a sunset – not something to be solved, but appreciated –your achievements, attempts at change, dreams and goals – sit back and appreciate them from time to time and remember there is more to life than diabetes.
- Health Care Team
- Family and friends
- People with diabetes
- Online and in person
- Books, magazines and other sources of information
- Counselling and other specialists
- Take time out from diabetes and other stress – try to be a “human being” not always a “human doing”!
Hi!
I'm Dessi from Sweden. Here in Sweden it is very much focus on good blood sugar levels and very little on the mental health. Doctors don't care if you're stressed or burnt out. I've been really stressed and tired for about 10 years now and everything the doctor talks about is insulin and blood sugar. It is soooooooo annoying. I told her that I wasn't going to see her in a year cause I needed a vacation from my diabetes. And she only said "OK".
I live a very hard life. No relatives, two kids with serious diseases (Cystic Fibrosis and Autism), no drivers license, I have 11 other diagnosis aswell as Diabetes type 1, I have to ride my bike to work and work for 9 hours every day, then go and get my kids in school, go home and help them with their physiotherapy, medicines and so on (and of course all the other stuff ordinary parents do). Of course there isn't much time left for me and my diabetes... But doctors here in Sweden don't have a holistic view on things. Unfortunately... They only see blood sugar.
Like this story. I cannot handle the Metformin and Glicazide..seems exercise (weight down) and losing the carbs are key factorsDizzy and Dory are great and so are your posts RRB. This information is so welcomed. Ive been struggling on and off for a few months after really doing well. thank you
Like this story. I cannot handle the Metformin and Glicazide..seems exercise (weight down) and losing the carbs are key factors
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