Diabetes related sickness

Dazza74

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Hi im a new member and would like your advice. Im a type 2 diabetic and recently my sugars have more than doubled from around 7.2 to over 20 at times. During this time ive had one cold after another and have been feeling fairly rotten. Ive had time off work because of this and partly because i work in health care and dont want to pass my germs on. My employer has informed that i have been summoned to a meeting to discuss my sickness record and this could possibly involve a formal warning. Does anybody know were i stand with this? Can they give me a warning for something that i currently have no control of.

Thanks in advance
 
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Clivethedrive

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Hi dazza74, welcome to the forum, the info that you need will be posted for you by @daisy1 ....in the meantime drink plenty of water and do some exercise even if its only a mile walk, this will help to lower your bs levels,
Regarding your sick leave, its always a good idea to inform your employer of changes to health( diabetes) so they know whats going on.don't worry they cannot sack you for having diabetes, but may want reassurances that you are safe to do your job.
Try and eat as few carbs as possible,no potatoes,rice,flour based items or sugary fruits, have a good look around on this forum at the " what have you eaten today " for ideas as to whats good for us.
Please ask questions and you will get lots of good advice here .
 
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Brunneria

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Hi,

Can I ask what you are eating?

Many type 2s who post on this forum control their blood glucose by adapting their diet, reducing carbohydrate foods. Some type 2s can drastically reduce their blood glucose by doing this, and reduce or even cease taking medication.

Having said that, infections such as you describe can raise blood glucose levels, and it becomes rather a vicious circle - the high BG lowers the immune system, which increases the chance of contracting another illness, which raises BG. But this seems to only happen when BG was too high when the cycle started.

In your situation I would firmly control my BG by reducing carbs and monitor carefully (do you have a glucose meter?). This will increase your immunity and bring your BG under control.

I'm afraid that I can't really comment about your employers request for a meeting, except to offer two personal opinions. The first is that I agree with you - going to work and spreading disease is a no brainer. The second is that type 2 diabetics can always control their blood glucose levels (by carb control and possibly medication) - provided they do not have additional health conditions that prevent them from following a low carb diet.
 
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daisy1

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@Dazza74

Hello Dazza and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information which Clivethedrive was referring to, and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Clivethedrive

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Hi dazza74, welcome to the forum, the info that you need will be posted for you by @daisy1 ....in the meantime drink plenty of water and do some exercise even if its only a mile walk, this will help to lower your bs levels,
Regarding your sick leave, its always a good idea to inform your employer of changes to health( diabetes) so they know whats going on.don't worry they cannot sack you for having diabetes, but may want reassurances that you are safe to do your job.
Try and eat as few carbs as possible,no potatoes,rice,flour based items or sugary fruits, have a good look around on this forum at the " what have you eaten today " for ideas as to whats good for us.
Please ask questions and you will get lots of good advice here .
Hi dazza74, hows it going ,?