Diabetes Unpacked - Various Authors

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Dark Horse said:
On the other hand the word 'rot' means to decay by the action of bacteria or fungi. There are no bacteria or fungi involved in theses processes. Although I'm sure that Jason Fung is well aware of this, if a GP was shown this book by a patient who wanted to convince them of the wisdom of LCHF, that paragraph alone could be enough discourage the GP from reading the rest of the book. Replace the word 'rot' with the word 'fail' and you would have a paragraph that is accessible both to the general public and to scientists/medics.
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  1. BRITISH
    a process of deterioration; a decline in standards.
    "there is enough talent in the team to stop the rot"
    synonyms: deterioration, decline;
    corruption, canker, cancer
    "staunch defenders of traditionalism argued that the rot set in with Van Gogh and Gauguin"
I think his use of the word 'rot' has impact in this context where as 'fail' is much softer . But I see your point.
 
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Dark Horse said:
On the other hand the word 'rot' means to decay by the action of bacteria or fungi. There are no bacteria or fungi involved in theses processes. Although I'm sure that Jason Fung is well aware of this, if a GP was shown this book by a patient who wanted to convince them of the wisdom of LCHF, that paragraph alone could be enough discourage the GP from reading the rest of the book. Replace the word 'rot' with the word 'fail' and you would have a paragraph that is accessible both to the general public and to scientists/medics.
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I think Dr Fung is safe with the use of the word rot if you look at the second definition in the Collins English Dictionary. I agree that the word rot envokes a more emotional response than fail.
 
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I don't like the word 'rot' or 'fail'. As it is a continues process 'fail' seems to be the wrong word, but as we can undo it 'rot' seems to be the wrong word.
 
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As he's Canadian it may have different connotations there. Personally though I think its exactly the right word to describe the action of high blood sugar levels. It is typical of the way he speaks to be pretty blunt and IMNSHO is the message that he is trying to get across.
 
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I agree that 'rot' could be used colloquially. I made the comment in response to an earlier poster who said they were going to give copies to their HCPs in order to change their minds on LCHF. I suspect that emotive and unscientific language could have the opposite effect to the one desired. However, if it's just one passage and it's obvious that it is Dr Fung's 'poetic' style, then it probably wouldn't be a problem.
 
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Blimey, that was quick! Just unpacked my copy of Diabetes Unpacked!

#alittlelightreading

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Am a little surprised by what I've just read on page 8.

#confused

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Snapsy said:
Yes. I feel this statement needs some further explanation....!
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Could be honeymoon? I'm no expert on Type 1 ... But I met a guy at the PHC conference who was a recently diagnosed Type 1 (diagnosed 4 years ago) who was ultra low carb and took no insulin. He is/was a member here but rarely posts unfortunately.
 
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bulkbiker said:
Could be honeymoon? I'm no expert on Type 1 ... But I met a guy at the PHC conference who was a recently diagnosed Type 1 (diagnosed 4 years ago) who was ultra low carb and took no insulin. He is/was a member here but rarely posts unfortunately.
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I agree, the person in question could well be honeymooning, and many of us would draw this conclusion. For the writer of this introduction to have left it at 'controlling her diabetes without insulin' however, might, I feel, give some readers the expectation that LCHF + type 1 = no insulin required.

Or maybe - as a type 1 on LCHF and insulin - I'm missing something?

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I've seen a few reports like this over the past few years - some have even been written up as medical studies I believe. If the dietary change (I've seen reports for both LCHF and Paleo) manages to arrest the antibody attack before total destruction of beta cells, it's not impossible. Just incredibly good luck and timing, I'd say - and pretty rare too.

There is a version of the Paleo diet called the Autoimmune Protocol that is reported to have considerable success with a number of autoimmune diseases - with antibody testing to back up some of the anecdotes.
 
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Snapsy said:
I agree, the person in question could well be honeymooning, and many of us would draw this conclusion. For the writer of this introduction to have left it at 'controlling her diabetes without insulin' however, might, I feel, give some readers the expectation that LCHF + type 1 = no insulin required.

Or maybe - as a type 1 on LCHF and insulin - I'm missing something?

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I am T1 on LCHF and no longer requiring insulin

OK so I'm actually diagnosed T1.5 but that's only a number! My consultant is now convinced that this is NOT a honeymoon as first thought, but is a direct result/benefit of going with a LCHF lifestyle.

I've now read the book Diabetes Unpacked, and found it really easy to understand (apart from Ch13 which I'll have another go at!) Being written by a lot of different authors it views diabetes from different angles and I found it answered a lot of questions and joined up umpteen thoughts I had never realised were linked.

Because it's by different authors, you don't have to read it chapter by chapter, as each specialist gives their own findings in a different way - a refreshing read and my copy has already been 'borrowed' numerous times!
 
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Nidge247 said:
My consultant is now convinced that this is NOT a honeymoon as first thought, but is a direct result/benefit of going with a LCHF lifestyle.
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Wow, that's fabulous, @Nidge247 !

(I'd quite like to turn the clock back 31 years now.....!)
 
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I've just ordered another copy for a friend via the link in this thread - impressive that it dropped through the letterbox less than 48hrs later (paperback with dvd and bookmark).
 
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