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Diabetics R Us

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by archersuz, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. therower

    therower Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    As omnivores pigs can and will eat anything. Roast beef isn’t off the menu. Probably more likely as table scraps but nonetheless still roast beef scraps.
    AND why have you omitted the little pig who squealed on everyone?:)
     
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  2. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    Uh it was a quote from a Tucker Zimmerman poem hence the quotation marks.

    "this little pig went to market
    this little pig stayed home
    this little pig ate roast beef
    this little pig had none
    what a load of **** (excrement)
    whoever heard of a pig eating roast beef?"
     
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  3. Antje77

    Antje77 LADA · Moderator
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    It does include a question mark though, hence my answer :)
     
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  4. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    It was Tuckers question not mine. :)

    If you are wondering Tucker was one of David Bowie's fave artists.
     
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  5. therower

    therower Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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  6. therower

    therower Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Other people’s quotes.......the bane of the forum.
     
  7. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    I have counted all my children's little toes and little fingers with this nursery song, it has brought back many happy memories and this little piggy squealed all the way home, was a big tickle, great fun, I can sing this, with actions to my baby granddaughter <3 :joyful:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Little_Piggy
     
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  8. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    Unfortunately they have eaten the hands that feed them, a framer in Oregon, 2012 and female farmer in Russia !! Scary :nailbiting:
     
  9. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    Yup same for both both my children and my grandson and me when a babby.
     
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  10. therower

    therower Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    It’s a classic for kids and grandkids alike.:):):):).
     
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  11. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    But raw not roasted. I had a friend who was a pig farmer way back when, he said you had to be careful round them.
     
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  12. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    I know some ( well quite a few) of the Victorian nursery stories/poems can have a dark side to them and remember so many of them too.
     
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  13. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    No, as far as I know pigs are not chefs or have their own BBQ in the sty, pretty risky to the piggies :wideyed: but................. a nice bit of crackling :)
     
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  14. Antje77

    Antje77 LADA · Moderator
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    Never heard of him but I like it!
     
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  15. SaskiaKC

    SaskiaKC Type 2 · Expert

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    All the kids who grew up watching The Wizard of Oz from a very early age (I was about 2) knew what could come of falling into the pig pen! :) I had a reminder at about age 7 in the livestock barn at the local fair when I saw my first pig. It was black and looked to me as huge as a cow! I wasn't about to get close enough to see if it even had any toes, let alone count them.

    I hope now that our thread has been revived it won't turn into an arena for argument about the diets of pigs. Please ...
     
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  16. Antje77

    Antje77 LADA · Moderator
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    I happen to be a member of a pastured pigs group on fb (I debated getting pigs inmy garden a couple of years ago, but got wiser) so I read quite enough arguments about pigs diets as it is, thank you.
    I propose we'll only discuss diabetic pigs diets here.
     
  17. SaskiaKC

    SaskiaKC Type 2 · Expert

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  18. JohnEGreen

    JohnEGreen Other · Master

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    Why don't pigs get diabetes?

    According to the “thrifty gene hypothesis,” the global diabetes epidemic is occurring because our hunter-gatherer ancestors evolved in an environment with uncertain food availability and high demands for physical activity, whereas we live in a world with an abundance of food and decreased requirement for physical activity. However, this hypothesis does not account for the marked regional and ethnic differences in diabetes prevalence in different societies.

    Consideration of hyperglycemia rates among domesticated mammals suggests that ethnic and national heterogeneity in diabetes prevalence is rooted in more recent events. Domesticated mammals are the result of generations of selective breeding that targeted a phenotype best suited for a particular task. Thus, for thousands of years, domesticated pigs and cows were selectively bred for their ability to efficiently accumulate and store energy for later consumption by humans, whereas dogs and rodent-catching cats were selected to maximize physical work and minimize consumption of food supplied by humans. Pigs and cows should therefore be protected against the toxic effects of a “diabetogenic” environment (i.e., one that favours inactivity and energy abundance), whereas dogs and cats would have no such protection when suddenly placed in a diabetogenic environment. Indeed, hyperglycemia is either unreported or extremely rare in pigs and cows and other domesticated mammals bred to accumulate energy, whereas it is relatively common in dogs and cats, which as pets are now exposed to a different environment from that for which they were bred. This suggests that it is possible for environmental pressures to select for protection against the metabolic consequences of a diabetogenic environment.

    From here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1319339/


    Wow I prefer the this little piggy rhyme
     
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  19. SaskiaKC

    SaskiaKC Type 2 · Expert

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    Actually, @JohnEGreen , I wanted to give your post a blue "i" as well as the green check.

    As a true daughter of my alma mater (Auburn University) I have just spent the past several minutes researching swine nutrition online. I never knew before that pig insulin was used for years by T1s and is still available.
     
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  20. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    Hi, 30 years ago pigs saved my life, I was on pork Insulin and at that time there was beef Insulin too.
    Amazing animals
     
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