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Diagnosed type 2 for 1 month

NeilSC

Active Member
Messages
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi all,
I’m new here so I hope I’ve posted in the right place. I’ve been diagnosed now for a month after having blood tests at my recent health check at the doctors.. my HbA1c was 97(is this bad), liver, kidneys and thyroid all ok and cholesterol was 3.7. I’m on 2000mg of metformin daily. I take my blood readings a few times a day and they seem to be hovering between 8-10, fasting this morning was 8.9, before I went to bed last night it was 8.7 so it was higher this morning!! Any help/tips on reducing this and what food to eat would be a great help..

Thanks for reading this

Neil
 
Hi @NeilSC and welcome! This site is a wealth of information and support! I will tag @daisy1 and @AM1874 both of whom have excellent advice for new members. The good news is that you have found this site, and you will learn that there is a lot you can do to manage your diabetes and take charge of your health!:)
 
Welcome! I'm now nearly five months from diagnosis. Once I was over the initial shock, I saw it as the proverbial kick up the bum to get healthier. I was started on Metformin and tolerate it well now after a bit of stomach upset in the early days. I wasn't advised to eat low carb by my GP, but stumbled on this forum by chance and took up a low carb life style with self monitoring, glad to see you already have a monitor. The best way to see what foods suit you is to test right before a meal and then two hours after the first bite, you’re looking for a rise of no more than 2 mmol/l. It's worked for me, to date I've lost over three and a half stone and got my HbA1c down to a non diabetic level, all due to the advise I got here. Once you’ve got over the shock I'm sure you'll find a way to do it too!
Here are the blood sugar levels you are aiming for to get your HbA1c down:

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html
 
@NeilSC

Hello Neil and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions when you need to and someone will willingly help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
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Hi all,
I’m new here so I hope I’ve posted in the right place. I’ve been diagnosed now for a month after having blood tests at my recent health check at the doctors.. my HbA1c was 97(is this bad), liver, kidneys and thyroid all ok and cholesterol was 3.7. I’m on 2000mg of metformin daily. I take my blood readings a few times a day and they seem to be hovering between 8-10, fasting this morning was 8.9, before I went to bed last night it was 8.7 so it was higher this morning!! Any help/tips on reducing this and what food to eat would be a great help..

Thanks for reading this

Neil

Hi and welcome aboard,

An HbA1c isn't good. Anything over 47 is diabetic. Non-diabetic is under 42. Between 42 and 47 is pre-diabetic. The aim is to reduce it to 48 or lower.

Are you using your meter to see how you react to certain foods? Testing immediately before you eat and again 2 hours after first bite is the best way to manage this disease as you can see at a glance what that meal has done to your levels, giving you the chance to either reduce the carbohydrate portions or eliminate some of the worst ones. Bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, breakfast cereals and fruit are likely to be the worst. It is also very useful to keep a food diary that includes all contents of the meal and portion sizes, then record your levels alongside. This way patterns will emerge. It is wise to keep any rise from before to after under 2mmol/l, preferably less. More than this and there are too many carbs in that meal.

Don't worry about your morning fasting readings. There are many things that influence this, most of which we have no control over. As your daily levels drop, so should the fastings, but they take a lot longer. In fact, it is much better to concentrate on your before and after meals levels.

By the way - there is no significant difference between your 8.7 and 8.9. Meters just are not that accurate I'm afraid! You will notice this a lot along your journey. They are only required to be up to plus or minus 15% accurate.

Do read round, follow links, and try to learn as much as you can about this disease, how our pancreas and livers work, and what all the tests and numbers mean. It is all available on the main website.
 
Hi @NeilSC .. and welcome
You have certainly made a good move coming here .. since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

The key point to take on board now is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your blood glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that @ daisy1 has already been in touch with you and I suggest that you read up on the valuable information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

It's good that you are already testing your blood sugar. I'm testing 3-5 times a day .. fasting blood sugar, then before meals and two hours afterwards .. this enables me to check which (if any) foods give me "spikes" and to monitor trends over time. More importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps
 
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