Diagnosed with T2 and now suffering.

chapitamaster

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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This week I was told I had Diabetes and like everybody else I read have had no help with the shock, how to cope or what to do next. GP just said look up Diabetes UK website...fantastic.
I was given the typical 500mg tablet and after just having one suffered a horrendously debilitating 24 hour migraine and threw up too.
Now I cannot touch these toxic drugs.
I haven't a clue what to eat either. Everything I should eat that is healthy I have been doing so for years so getting Type 2 is a real mystery to me.
Now I'm stuck, feel disappointed and abandoned. What do I do? Damned if I do, damned if I don't.
 

NewTD2

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Don’t feel alone. You have found the right community for help and support.

Eliminate all “high carbs” from your diet (potatoes, white bread, whole meal bread, pitta, chapatis, naan, flour, pasta, noodles, white rice, peanuts, cashews, including all starchy vegetables ie sweetcorn, yam, cassava etc.)

Eat above ground “low glycemic” vegetables ie cauliflower, broccoli, spinach, aubergines, okra, courgette, salads etc.

Avoid sauces with hidden sugars ie ketchup, mayonnaise, salad creams etc.

Remove sugary drinks from your diet ie fizzy drinks, Coke, Pepsi, Diet Coke, sweet fruit juices etc. Also avoid cakes, chocolates, biscuits, cereals, sweet fruits and all other tropical fruits.

Eat healthy fats ie avocados, oily fish, pecan, walnut, full fat cream, extra virgin olive oil, cheese, cold pressed rapeseed oil, and low carb berries ie strawberry, raspberry, blackberry.

Hope this helps, and welcome!

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/foods#foodlist
 
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Goonergal

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Hi @chapitamaster and welcome to the forum.

I’m tagging @daisy1 who will be along with some useful information for newbies. Have a good read and ask as many questions as you like.
 
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kokhongw

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I haven't a clue what to eat either. Everything I should eat that is healthy I have been doing so for years so getting Type 2 is a real mystery to me.

Welcome to the forum.

Perhaps you would like to share what you have been eating that you considered to be healthy...that is how many of us started our journey of recovery, healing and liberation.
 
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Guzzler

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You are not alone in feeling scared and confused when diagnosed. Diabetes education for patients is woefully poor but the good news is that you can take control of your health and well being. My first feeling after diagnosis was that I was numb with fear and for a time I was in total denial but I joined this forum and learned a lot from the members about how to turn things around.

Have a wander around the forum and ask as many questions as you like, the members here are very knowledgeable and supportive.
 

Sue_Cyprus_

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi chapitamaster I felt the same as you .I was given metformin and sent on my way. The pharmacist sent me to this website and also gave me some tips about what I should eat. The diabetic nurse told me I had done this to myself as I was fat I was discusted with her behaviour and made a formal complaint to my dr.I have read lots of useful information here and in 4 months managed to get my very high blood glucose down to non diabetic levels. I ate a lot of fruit, now i only eat berries and the odd Apple. I eat lots of fresh veg which I have always done. Good luck with the help and support of this forum you will get there.
 
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shelley262

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Welcome to this forum I’ve found it so helpful in getting back to a healthy blood glucose level and weight. The hardest thing to comprehend is that the official healthy food calories in and calories out is not healthy for us carbohydrate intolerant individuals. Even harder for me was the healthy fats message - I’d avoided fats of any type for years and years thinking they were bad for me. Take small steps to start with, making changes and at the same time read and watch as much as you can. Good education sites include. www.dietdoctor.com you can access free for a month and don’t need to carry on if you’ve learnt enough by then. Members often link to really useful videos too that will help to introduce you to the science behind why this way of eating works.
You also need to consider getting a blood glucose meter and strips you can get a free tee2 meter from www.spirithealthcare.co.uk - if you do you’ll have to buy test strips with your meter but it can help you to work out which foods raise your blood glucose and so work out a diet that suits you. Many members on here test whilst others don’t and rely on their hbca1.
Did you make a note of what your hbac1 was on diagnosis? Take it all steady and keep asking for help and advice. If you do decide to go down the testing route we can help you understand the figures it’s all really like a mountain in the early days but gets so much easier as the views start to appear! I now more often feel anger that it was the healthy advice that I’d been following religiously that landed me overweight and with diabetes in the first place
 

daisy1

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@chapitamaster

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.



BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Alison Campbell

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Hope you are feeling better today, do take the time to read some of the excellent responses and feel free to ask as many questions as possible.

Do you know your test results that led to diagnosis? This is important information to keep as a starting point to see if the actions you take have a positive effect. If you don't have them you can get your test results from the surgery or sign up for online access to your medical results which my surgery allows after completing a form with ID and approval of doctor.