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Did anyone else take a back step after the diabetic nurse??

Fellow nurse here miss Mac and I posted something similar a couple of months ago,I truly now believe the NHS diabetic plan is prehistoric,I have battled for a couple of months and I'm in a much better place we professionals research and change all the time.
Stick with it this forum has been great for me
Good diet now,excellent exercise regime and I don't feel diabetes is a sentence just a reset for me.
Keep feeling positive
 
My point exactly...it's all to do with money I think...the companies that produce the info. also produce the drugs..xx
 
Ceel said:
Hi
I'm a retired Paramedic and I am lucky that the "diabetic nurse " is a total star !! So very sensible and not in the least patronising . I used to feel like shouting at some of the people I worked with!
Keep strong ....
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My DN superb. Old dietician had a melt down with me and lchf. New dietician is working with me.
DN always did.
I have no complaint but still not losing weight. Bariatric surgery being pushed on me by specialist. Not a long term solution to weight problem nor a guarantee diabetes will do one. So....I guess that's a no from me.
 

Probably because all their advice stems from the British Nutrition Foundation.

Members?
Heinz
United Biscuits
British Sugar Corporation
Warburtons
Weetabix
and many others

Need I say more?

https://www.nutrition.org.uk/aboutbnf/supporters/memberorganisations.html
 
Hi. I'm lucky in having had a few good DNs at my surgery and they tend to know more and listen rather than my diabetes GP does. Now you know what your are dealing with you obviously need to take control next time and try to stop her pushing out any nonsense and start asking questions to push back. If you do have a choice of DNs that would be great.
 
The NHS, Government and DUK are dinosaurs with regard to diet. I've complained many times and in fact just resigned from DUK. Little of what they say is evidence based and to some extent they are influenced by the food and drug industry behind the scenes. This forum is a good way of finding out what diabetes is really about and what diet approach actually works.
 

See my post above.
 
Isn't it petrifying how the NHS is backed by corporation...I'm a member of it but have to say am thinking twice the more my eyes are being opened. What was put about who is a member of the nutritional society or whatever is beyond belief. x
 
Well as I've said many times before there is conflicting advice everywhere ..,, even in here on occasion.
Again as I've said before I have nothing but praise for the way I have been treated by my practice nurse. Yes she advocates 'the NHS rubbish' (as do many call it) and no she doesn't necessarily advocate self testing .... but she IS prepared to listen to other views, and YES she does respect patients wishes and how they may want to approach things.
She has seen how I have very much struggled emotionally in coming to terms with 'it' over s number of months and has been brilliant with a good deal of support, advice and where required very quick at referrals and getting things done .... I am still a fan of NHS nurses even if many on here aren't!
 
Aw that's brill, I love it when people get what they need. I actually just said to the other half, even if she was going to pour out the complex carbs rubbish she could have at least thought about the emotional state a diagnosis can cause and therefore work with that, but no...she just wanted to do her tick box exercise and move on. I mean...am I wrong in thinking when given your results of Hb doobrey that they should put it in layman's terms, tell you what it actually means? I've done that and already feel better than I did for doing so...she was just reading numbers and telling me where they should be...I find the whole thing petrifying...mind you one of the first things she said to me was "you're a nurse aren't you" so there's probably a note somewhere that I am difficult or something xxx
 
@MissMac
If you read one of my other posts ....
My PN could see I was working hard to get on top of this, but still 'in bits'. She felt I needed a confidence boost so was keen to do a 'hb doobrey' after only 2 months rather than the usual 3+ - so she could prove what I was doing was working. She did, and was so excited she phoned me first thing on Monday - I was away on holiday which she knew.
She told me (at that point) my 'result' was 7.3 (down from 11 on bring 'labelled') so I should now a. Stop worrying, and b. Go and enjoy my holiday and 'be kind to myself'...... I managed b, but still struggling with a.
Btw - the guidance she gave me on 'labelling' was that the key to getting on top of this was a good diet, lose weight and regular exercise .... all 3 boxes well and truly now ticked ..... maybe she wasn't talking 'rubbish' after all!
 
I think by and large, we are on our own. We are better off talking to each other and supporting each other. Some of the medical profession have a lot to answer for. I have very little faith in the medical profession and I would rather seek answers from forum members!
 
That's lush that she understood that that's all I needed really was someone on side that understood what I am doing, trying to do whatever and give me some professional support...even if she still had to churn out her transcribed stuff (it was transcribed....she had a flip chart printed with lovely childish pictures) and there was no way she was diverting off of that. Thankfully after my outburst, I watched a load of videos last night that are relevant and tried to re-motivate myself. She caused "damage" to where I have been in the last few days and if they think that is the way to make people engage then they are sorely mistaken. Nothing is personalised at all and she really did not understand anything about diabetes x
 
We don't have specific diabetic nurse at our practise just the general nurse... she can't write prescriptions or change the dosages of medication we have to see our doctor for that. The only food advice she gave at the first visit to her after diagnosis was if we ate bread rice and pasta.. which I rarely did,, was to eat wholemeal instead of the white stuff she never mentioned the ..eat well plate. . When we see her for blood test results...my husband and I are both T2... she is only really interested in what the results are and how we are feeling she never asks how we are eating and as mine had gone down from 46 to 42 in the first 3 months after diagnosis she was really pleased about that but not so pleased nor was I that my cholesterol had gone up quite a bit since I had been eating more fat like cream butter and full fat cheese so have cut them down now
 

Perhaps she checked if you were a nurse because she thought you might have some prior knowledge?

I think telling you your HbA1C and then where it should be is fine, but, of course, at appointments there's so much in your head that you want to ask that it's easy to forget precise details. I sometimes ask for a print-out of results if there are a lot then you can look through them at your leisure.
 
The information and support I have received from my doctor has been rubbish. On initial diagnosis I was sent a letter confirming diabetes ( it was picked up in a routine eye test ) no results no other information ( my blood reading was very very high) , no meds and had to wait 5 weeks to see a nurse. Everywhere I turn there is a culture of diabetes mismanagement. I find it astounding, if it wasn't for this forum I would be floundering in the dark and probably making myself ill. A friend gifted me a diabetic cookbook, we rolled around laughing at it, every recipe had carbs in one form or another portions with 80 odd grams of carbs, that would send me into the high teens blood wise. Whole section on sweets and pancakes etc, hilarious.
 

I have also had a great experience with my DNS. However, I do think medical professionals are nicer to type 1s because there's less stigma. This is obviously very unfair, but sadly I think it's true.

@MissMmac - if you really don't want to see your DNS, your GP should be able to sort the blood tests out for you.
 
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