Diet macros suggestions pls for pre-D

BunsenHoneydew

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Hello, I have just joined the forum so apologies in advance if this is in the wrong section.

I got a callback from my GP to discuss prediabetes as my HbA1c came in at 42, though it was 38 only a few months ago. So the nurse was not overly concerned and advised me to cut down on carbs and exercise a bit more.

I asked how much carbs I should aim for and she said 230g which is close to the "defaults" given in the My Fitness Pal app for my activity level, body mass and weight loss goal.

I've logged for a few days now and noticed that I'm not hitting 230g carbs a day. About 180-200. (Provided I'm not out having fast food of course). Is 230 a reasonable carbs target?
 

bulkbiker

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Depends.. I aim for fewer than 20g but I want to maintain a substantial weight loss and keep my blood sugars in the low end of "normal". Personally I think that 230g per day is what got a lot of people into the place they are in now (i.e. with Type 2) so would aim far lower.. but as always it's up to you how low to go. Please be aware though that there are no "essential" carbs unlike fat and protein.
 

Goonergal

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Hi.

Low carb is generally considered to be 130g or less of carbs a day, but each individual will vary as to how many they can tolerate (I go much lower). The best way to establish your tolerance levels is to use a blood glucose monitor to,test immediately before and again 2 hours after your first bite to see the effects of particular foods on your sugar levels. You’re looking for a rise of no more than 2mmols.

Meters are relatively inexpensive (sometimes free), but the cost of strips can be high. Two often recommended on here with lower cost strips are the Tee2 available from Spirit Healthcare or the SD Codefree available from Home Health.

I’m also tagging @daisy1 for an information pack.
 

Resurgam

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I have had to stick to no more than 80 gm of carb a day all my adult life, to control my weight, and now that I am diagnosed diabetic I have 60 gm as an absolute max - so your nurse's recommendations are completely over the horizon as far as I would be concerned.
I'd urge that you get a meter and learn what your body will deal with happily, and stick to those foods and amounts - I find that I need to keep to low carb foods, as some high carb foods, even if eaten in small amounts seem to affect me more than the equivalent amount from other sources.
 
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daisy1

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@BunsenHoneydew

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both useful and interesting. Ask any questions you need to and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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BunsenHoneydew

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Thanks all, I'm happy to buy a meter. I've found the link for the tee2.

Can someone advise exactly which items I should put in my cart? Thanks!

I have pretty much every risk factor for Type 2 so sooner or later (hopefully many many years later!)...
 

Alison Campbell

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I'd definately stick with the lancets that go with the lancing device in the meter kit you are buying. Although there is a standard dimension for lancets, I have found that some are more standard than others.

I don't use this meter but I think on the kit web page there is a link to suitable lancets.
 
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