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Diet sheet please

Hobittual

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At the rate I am going, I will soon be surviving on a filet of ice in a water sauce.
I have cut down on every bad food I can think of, I have stopped drinking 5 months now. I fanatically avoid processed food, I cook every day, never frozen always fresh, yet I am spiralling down the hba1c plughole.
I want to start on a strict diet, proven to work, creative and sustaining that will turn me back into a Brad Pitt look-a-like, or the nearest to that. Plus help to relieve some of the anguish all this is causing.
Any help on this would be wonderful.
 
Daisy1 will be along in the morning with some tips for you and to greet you properly. In the meantime have a look at Viv's Modified Atkins Diet.
 
))Denise(( said:
Daisy1 will be along in the morning with some tips for you and to greet you properly. In the meantime have a look at Viv's Modified Atkins Diet.

Hi Hobittual (nice name) and welcome to the forum :) I can't give you a diet sheet set out like Viv's, but I can give you some general information, which was prepared for new members, which will give you some tips on what you can and can't eat and other advice on how to look after your diabetes. Ask as many questions as you like as there is usually someone here who will be able to answer you.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thanks for that Daisy1, I will trawl the forum to learn a bit methinks, and work it all out.
I am in a bit of a strange situation, in that I live half the time in the USA and then the UK. So my diet has got to be portable. I fear the trouble wil lie with the USA. Things I have found over there that purport to be Diabetic friendly are, after close scrutiny, really quite awful, there are lots of these to be found. America is a worry to me.
Anyways up, I thank you for pointing me somewhere good, this seems like a nice forum.
Hob
 
Hobittual said:
Things I have found over there that purport to be Diabetic friendly are, after close scrutiny, really quite awful,

As a general rule of thumb Hobittual, any food stuff labelled as diabetic friendly is best avoided whichever side of the pond you are on :D

Food manufacturers have this idea that we can not eat sugar so sell foods that contain no added sugar as diabetic friendly despite the fact that they may be very high in carbohydrates or have dangerous additives added to improve the taste instead of the sugar that is left out.

Stick to home made/cooked meals and away from processed foods and at least you will know what you are eating, then simply check your bg levels before and 2 hours after eating and you will see what that meal does to your bg level, if after 2 hours your levels are not returning to close to your pre meal level then you may start to look at reducing the carb content of that meal.

We all find that certain foods will affect us more than others, for example some people eat porridge for breakfast and it doesnt spike their bg others cant eat porridge as it does spike their bg, and this is why it is difficult to give a diet sheet that would suite everyone.

Foods high in carbs such as white bread, pasta, white rice and potatoes are the obvious place to start making reductions.
 
Cheers Sid.
I always bring over from the US a brand of sugar free maple syrup. Last time I was there, 5 weeks ago, my Wife found some sugar free Honey!! It tasted really nice, but when I investigated it, it was made from paint thinners, or perhaps not that, but something equally incidious, so it was binned. My maple syrup on the other hand is actually safe, in scheme of things. It isn't as though I want for sweet things anymore really, but the syrup is nice.
What I find hard in the US is to get any food that hasn't been meddled with, even the "fresh" vegetables are pretty spooky characters. As I must knuckle down about all this, it will be a challenge when I leave Blighty.
Hob
 
Hi. It might we wise to avoid 'sweet' things such as the artifical syrup as they might maintain a taste for sweet foods which I've gradually trained myself out of. Don't worry about alcohol; it is normally not a problem for diabetics and if anything slightly reduces your BS. It might be worth telling us some of the foods you currently do eat in case we can spot where some changes might be needed. How long have you been diagnosed? Are you on any meds yet? Although diet is the first thing to attack you may need to move onto some meds. I was unable to keep my HbA1C low without tablets despite a low carb diet, exercise etc.
 
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