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Diet soft drinks causing heart attacks?

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Just read this http://www.timeslive.co.za/lifestyl...-day-increases-heart-attack-stroke-risk-study

And it says:

They found that those who drank diet soft drinks daily were 43 percent more likely to have suffered heart attacks or strokes than those who drank none. Light diet soft drink users, meaning "those who drank between one a month and six a week," and those who chose regular soft drinks were not more likely to suffer vascular health problems, according to a press release.
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It's quite scary... I wanted to see who here drinks diet drinks and who drinks regular? it seems diet drinks are also making us fatter - weirdly...

In other recent research, a 10-year study from the University of Texas in the United States revealed that people who drank two or more diet sodas a day gained 70 percent more abdominal fat than those in the study who didn't drink diet soda.
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It's terrifying!
 
Well yeah, wouldn't panic too much. The first quote you gave talked about "people drinking between one a month and six a week" - bit of a big range that! always makes me think someone is choosing figures to suit their desired outcome. What other correlations were there? Did the same people who put on weight also eat between 1 and 15 tins of baked beans a day? Being facetious, but you can draw conclusions on what you like.
I've not read your links, so I'm answering from a position of not having studied them. But I'd prefer the risk of drinking something that doesn't raise my BG (and thus DEFINITELY reduces my chances of cardio issues) to drinking things that DO raise my BGs. - we have to drink something! Water is a bit boring.
Having said that, I'll stick to Rioja as diet drinks are so bad! :thumbup:
 
I haven't had a chance to read it, but I read a Facebook post from Jenny Ruhl who is suggesting that:
1. Overweight people are more prone to heart attacks and strokes.
2. Diet sodas are aimed at people that are trying to control (or more usually reduce) their weight.
3. Therefore a sample of people who drink diet sodas are more likely (on-average) to be overweight.
4. Therefore the same sample of people are more likely to suffer from heart attacks or strokes.

I hope it's not true because DIet Coke is the only vice in my low-carb diet, and I drink obscene amounts of it.
 
borofergie said:
DIet Coke is the only vice in my low-carb diet, and I drink obscene amounts of it.
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Likewise!
 
I like my Pepsi Max and as I don't drink, smoke or eat meat, I'm going to carry on with it, despite having had a stroke. Interestingly when I had my stroke I'd actually been drinking far more water than fizz. My stroke was caused by really high sugar levels, so never ever again will I eat sweets, especially Skittles.
 
Some people say that Pepsi Max is better than Diet Coke for sweetener reasons - is this true?
 
I doubt it. It's all a load of useless chemicals.

But in a large glass, cold, with lots of ice accompanied by a handful of salty nuts, it's wonderful.

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borofergie said:
I haven't had a chance to read it, but I read a Facebook post from Jenny Ruhl who is suggesting that:
1. Overweight people are more prone to heart attacks and strokes.
2. Diet sodas are aimed at people that are trying to control (or more usually reduce) their weight.
3. Therefore a sample of people who drink diet sodas are more likely (on-average) to be overweight.
4. Therefore the same sample of people are more likely to suffer from heart attacks or strokes.

I hope it's not true because DIet Coke is the only vice in my low-carb diet, and I drink obscene amounts of it.
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Some good points by Jenny, on a quick look at the abstract I'd add another: diets were self reported. Studies on obesity /diet using doubly labelled water show just how much people tend to manipulate (lie, or forget ) in their responses to these questionnaires. I suspect that there could be a lot of false reporting 'oh I just had a couple of diet cokes'
Worth following up but by no means definitive.
http://www.abstractsonline.com/Plan/Vie ... 0E964F4%7D
 
They did control for metabolic syndrome which would include waist measurement, and also for physical activity.
An uncle of mine drank the sugared variety on a daily basis and died of pancreatic cancer. His doctor thought those 2 facts were related.
 
From the comments I have read, a lot makes sense. Something about "Lies lies and **** statistics" springs to mind. If you take one bit of data, out of the whole picture, you can prove what you want, depending on the data you pick.
 
The first quote you gave talked about "people drinking between one a month and six a week" - bit of a big range that
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Sounds like a standard statistical trick to me - you'd expect a bigger (and stat. Significant) difference between none and one a day compared to 6 per week and one a day. Google multiple comparison.
 
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