carty
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Me too
Carol
Me tooAs an n=1 this makes sense to me. I was a painfully thin child, a super skinny adolescent, I was thin in my twenties and after having children and reaching my forties I was slim. Perhaps I am genetically predisposed to being a scrawny elder which is what I am now.
I feel the key to remission is in the liver not the pancreas so...... What I'd be asking is .. .... Is my liver working to its best and have I got rid of any fatty liver?https://blogs.diabetes.org.uk/?p=10727
Professor Taylor is looking into this issue on hehalf of Diabetes UK. I beleive his contention is that we all have a personal fat threshold thus someone who has a bmi of 24 may need to reduce it to 22 or lower to get into remission.
Interesting but I am frustrated by the article regarding remission of type 2 which totally fails to mention low carb/high fat.
The options are Newcastle Diet or weight loss via the low fat diet or bariatric surgery with various dietary studies compared then disclaimed because they aren't studying the same things anyway.
No mention of the various studies where low carb/high fat has gone head to head with low fat and even the Mediterranean and either beaten it or done equally well. Low carb appears to be Voldemart as far as DuK are concerned.
I am seriously wondering if they have been getting any funding from those shakes companies to show the ND in a favourable light (starvation does sound slightly more appealing than irreversible surgery or the v.low remission rate quoted for cal contolled low fat!).
I doubt if the Newcastle diet as administrated is a random example of diabetics. I suspect the 'low hanging fruits' are picked as subjects, from what I read those older than their late 60's are not chosen.
I suspect the same may apply to waist versus height ratio.
Does anyone have any evidence on candidate selection.
And
How in fact do they choose the later diet.
I hope it's not by BDA recommendations.
D.
I hadn't noticed before but they took people who were on "anti-diabetes drugs" but had already put their diabetes into remission using their own criteria (HbA1c below 48 mmol/m) onto the trial... hmmmm half way there already perhaps? I wonder how many of those made it through to the "in remission" group.
I feel the key to remission is in the liver not the pancreas so...... What I'd be asking is .. .... Is my liver working to its best and have I got rid of any fatty liver?
Loads of slim people have fatty liver. None diabetics too of course but maybe their not genetically flawed like most of us are.
A fatty liver messes up the metabolism, even in slim people. You may be slim due to your thyroid or pituitary gland not being influenced by the metabolism your fatty liver creates?
Have you definitely no fatty liver?
Or proof of their resolve?I hadn't noticed before but they took people who were on "anti-diabetes drugs" but had already put their diabetes into remission using their own criteria (HbA1c below 48 mmol/m) onto the trial... hmmmm half way there already perhaps? I wonder how many of those made it through to the "in remission" group.
An ultrasound scan.How do you know if one has fatty liver?
Thanks bulbiker, they seem to equate T2D with being over weight.
That fitted their agenda Im afraid.. no TOFI's allowed...Thanks bulbiker, they seem to equate T2D with being over weight.
When I got down to 13stone at 1.95 I still was predibetic and my ribs were showing.
Daughters and wife complained I was overdoing it.
D.
A friend of mine was told that she had a fatty liver after a routine blood test.How do you know if one has fatty liver?
Or, "Naturally slender", and "slender senior".Think wiry elder! (Sounds better than scrawny)
I hadn't noticed before but they took people who were on "anti-diabetes drugs" but had already put their diabetes into remission using their own criteria (HbA1c below 48 mmol/m) onto the trial... hmmmm half way there already perhaps? I wonder how many of those made it through to the "in remission" group.
My understanding is, if you have HBA1c's in the prediabetic or non-diabetic range assisted by anti-diabetic drugs - you are not in remission. Remission (and of course resolution/reversal) is your body functioning on its own, not with help from medication. This makes complete sense to me, as there is no 'remission' if your liver still has major signalling issues, say, but is functioning well due to metformin doing its thing, for example.
No mention of the various studies where low carb/high fat has gone head to head with low fat and even the Mediterranean and either beaten it or done equally well. Low carb appears to be Voldemart as far as DuK are concerned.
Indeed but I had never noticed in the ND trials that they accepted people who were actually at a "pre diabetic" level with medication into the trial. Looking at the criteria for acceptance it would seem that they did I just found that a bit odd.
Indeed but I had never noticed in the ND trials that they accepted people who were actually at a "pre diabetic" level with medication into the trial. Looking at the criteria for acceptance it would seem that they did I just found that a bit odd.
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