PS: Love that cat-avatar!I have not long been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and on medication and still adjusting to a diet . I need to have a breakfast but not keen on eggs. Is there a cereal I can have ? Someone said sheddied wheat is ok .is this ok ?
I believe that the amount of fibre in the cereal effects things as well. For example, I can't eat weetabix (well, I can, but they spike my blood sugar too high). I can eat all-bran, which has more carbs, sugar and fibre that weetabix, though without the spike. If I add psyllium husk -- another fibre that is not digested, although gut microbes might digest some -- I can eat most cereals except weetabix and silly stuff like fruit loops without a significant spike. I'm on insulin though, so your mileage may vary (and probably will)
I think I understand what you're saying and agree with using a meter. But in a way I'm in the same boat because I'm on a fixed dose of insulin; i.e. whatever I eat for breakfast has to be "covered" by that dose. What I was trying to say, but probably didn't say very well, is that for example I can't eat corn flakes without a huge spike. But if I add fibre (I use psyllium husk) to the corn flakes the spike is much lower and acceptable. So I can only assume that the fibre is doing something to my digestion because the insulin I have hasn't changed, only the amount of fibre...Unfortunately there is a big difference between those of us like you and me who are insulin deficient (and can inject more) and those who are insulin resistant (and possibly over producing insulin) and have to process the carbs with their own insulin. However, metabolisms all vary, so I still think that the best advice is for @lindyloodev to use a meter to see whether they can manage a particular meal.
Odds are you don't spike, but your blood sugars stay up longer than they normally would. As in, the rise isn't anywhere near as steep (fibers do slow down the uptake, and fats more so), but your body does have to deal with the carbs, it just does it slower. So where you'd be back to pre-meal numbers 3 hours after, now it might be four, for instance.I think I understand what you're saying and agree with using a meter. But in a way I'm in the same boat because I'm on a fixed dose of insulin; i.e. whatever I eat for breakfast has to be "covered" by that dose. What I was trying to say, but probably didn't say very well, is that for example I can't eat corn flakes without a huge spike. But if I add fibre (I use psyllium husk) to the corn flakes the spike is much lower and acceptable. So I can only assume that the fibre is doing something to my digestion because the insulin I have hasn't changed, only the amount of fibre...
You're going to be fine. get yourself a meter, and like @catinahat said, keep an eye on total carbs, not just sugars. You'll figure it out. In the meantime, just try going for anything full fat, low carb, or protein-ey. Oh, and if you want to go grocery shopping, go over your list, if you haven't done that yet. Just check nutritional info online if you don't have the packaging at home anymore, and check what goes, what can be replaced with another brand, etc. Will save you spending ages in the supermarket and coming home with just one head of lettuce and lots of tears for dressing.Thank you for the advice , it will be hard but with support I will get there
Yes, that's what I've been trying to say without expressing myself very well. Clearly my total blood sugar for the day remains the same[1], I'm just "flattening the curve" (gosh I hate that phrase, but that's what's happening I think). So, yes, instead of a big peak that drops just as suddenly I have a slow rise that stays flat for longer before falling.... stretching everything out because, as you say, the fibre slows things down. So, in terms of numbers I stay in range a lot more. But whether that's a good thing or a bad thing I don't know. I do confirm with libre and my contour next how different foods effect meOdds are you don't spike, but your blood sugars stay up longer than they normally would. As in, the rise isn't anywhere near as steep (fibers do slow down the uptake, and fats more so), but your body does have to deal with the carbs, it just does it slower. So where you'd be back to pre-meal numbers 3 hours after, now it might be four, for instance.
Just an educated guess though, we're all different, so your meter'll know.
Thing is, you don't have to stretch out carbs to keep going. For a while there I thrived on a carnivore diet, which meant zero carbs: just protein and fats. No carbs at all, none. (Which gets really costly, but it does illustrate my point). Believe me, I did not go hungry. That did mean 4 eggs with bacon, (goat) cheese and ham would start my day, and double or triple portions of meat/poultry/fish in the evening. No cravings to snack in between, and just two meals a day would keep me going. It was a bit extreme, but I'm back to keto now, so about 20 grams of carbs a day, give or take, having gone back to veggies as well. Once you're "fat adapted", as in, your body stops running on carbs and starts burning fats instead, the whole point of stretching carbs out becomes moot. (And even then... Carbs demand carbs, so when you start running low on those, you get hungry again. That's the cycle to break!). The longer you go low carb, the less hungry you get.Yes, that's what I've been trying to say without expressing myself very well. Clearly my total blood sugar for the day remains the same[1], I'm just "flattening the curve" (gosh I hate that phrase, but that's what's happening I think). So, yes, instead of a big peak that drops just as suddenly I have a slow rise that stays flat for longer before falling.... stretching everything out because, as you say, the fibre slows things down. So, in terms of numbers I stay in range a lot more. But whether that's a good thing or a bad thing I don't know. I do confirm with libre and my contour next how different foods effect me
[1] Indirectly it may reduce my daily blood sugars because I don't have to have a mid-morning snack because breakfast "wore off" so quickly. So I avoid one snack by stretching things out. That's my theory anywayand likely doesn't apply to lindyloodev because they can just avoid the snack anyway because they're not on insulin. Unless of course they're having a snack because their blood sugars drop and they're hungry then maybe it'd apply (?) Probably not
Thing is, I do otherwise I'd go hypo being on a fixed dose of insulin. Clearly this doesn't apply to @lindyloodev but they'd like to know if they can have cereal. If adding fibre to that cereal allows them to stretch the carbs out and maybe skip a mid-morning snack then I'd say if you must have, or want, cereal then at least make sure it's high in fibre (or add it). I mean, if you really want to eat cereal, then why not stretch it out to get the best bang for your buck, so to speak?Thing is, you don't have to stretch out carbs to keep going.
Haven't been on here in a bit, and one of the things that makes that horribly clear is forgetting that I really, REALLY need to check over and over again what meds/regime someone is on before I open my mouth. Sorry!Thing is, I do otherwise I'd go hypo being on a fixed dose of insulin. Clearly this doesn't apply to @lindyloodev but they'd like to know if they can have cereal. If adding fibre to that cereal allows them to stretch the carbs out and maybe skip a mid-morning snack then I'd say if you must have, or want, cereal then at least make sure it's high in fibre (or add it). I mean, if you really want to eat cereal, then why not stretch it out to get the best bang for your buck, so to speak?
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