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Disappointed in advice - Newly DX

Discussion in 'Newly Diagnosed' started by leatrix, Jan 20, 2020.

  1. timgil

    timgil Type 2 · Active Member

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    Agreed with the acceptance of low carb by some health professionals. While I have not chosen "low carb" myself that is more down to the fact I do not see me being able to keep it up and interactions with the family etc. I did however mention low carb to my DSN and her response made me chuckle a little...."Yes, low carb is good of course.... so long as its also low fat.........." Me thinks she had no idea what I was talking about!
     
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  2. verdesca

    verdesca Type 2 · Active Member

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    Smile and, with the advice of people you trust, go your own way. Works for me and I don't trust anyone really
    The nearest I get to trusting is my Diabetes Clinic Doctor which is fortunate.
     
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  3. Koalajane

    Koalajane Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I went on the LCHF diet as soon as I was diagnosed. I was put on gliclazide 1 x 40mg a day. By the time I had my 6 monthly review my hba1c had gone down from 99 to 39 and my doctor and diabetic nurse recommended I stop taking the gliclazide as they were worried about hypos. This was nearly 2 years ago and I have not had any diabetic medication since then. My last hba1c in November was 35.
    By the way I have had PMR since 6 months before type 2 diagnosis and have been on steroids starting on 15mg of prednisolone and now on 5 mg. The LCHF diet insomnia good for PMR.
     
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  4. peterlemer

    peterlemer · Well-Known Member

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    Since I began Vaganuary my bloods have fallen significantly. whether it's the vegan thing or the fact that I've added brewer's yeast to my meds, I'm very happy with progress.
     
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  5. Pipster72

    Pipster72 Prediabetes · Newbie

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    Check out the Facebook group "reversing diabetes". They advocate managing T2 through diet and have loads of information in their files.
     
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  6. liza_h

    liza_h Prediabetes · Member

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    Can you ask to see someone else. You may find another nurse who is more prepared to listen to what you want to do. My GP always asks what I want and I think agreeing a plan with the patient is something that is expected of medical centres these days. The days of dictating should be over. If dictating is still the style at your surgery I'd consider raising it as an issue with her line manager. Good luck!
     
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  7. pdmjoker

    pdmjoker Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Hello, and sorry to read of your experience...
    I've not read all the replies to your post so I may repeat something, but:
    A ketogenic/keto diet will "burn off" liver fat and improve things
    I was able to come off Omeprazole for excess tummy acid (not hiatus) after going Keto for a few weeks
    Going keto will quickly and massively reduce your blood glucose levels so taking oral GZ or Metformin aswell poses a real risk of a hypo
    Even if you are successful in losing weight and normalising your blood glucose and liver fat by low carb dieting you will likely still find healthcare professionals who are dubious/unsupportive.
    This forum is VERY supportive - you've come to the right place! :)
     
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  8. greatpotoo

    greatpotoo · Newbie

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    Hello Leatrix,

    if you are new to the condition you should initially follow the advice of your healthcare provider (they usually know what they are doing... although sadly there are also exceptions to this rule and quality of advice may vary hugely...).

    Secondly you should start researching your condition at your own pace - don't trust information blindly as the web is full of "tales", "cures" and "wonders" which do not work. Use trusted sources, walk to your local library and look at some books on the subject. Look at research (this may be overwhelming initially as the vocabulary used may be complex but the more you read about the subject the more you'll understand).

    Have a look at your diet, do some exercise, realise, if you haven't already, that it is important to take care of yourself and your body.

    Once you have gathered all the information and start feeling more comfortable with your condition you can start making changes to your medication and challenge your doctor/nurse.

    Some promising research has shown that fasting may do wonders for all sorts of conditions including T2D. You don't need to starve yourself but a well planned fasting regime may do wonders... If you have a chance look into Dr Michael Mosley's BBC Horizon program
    Eat, Fast and Live Longer.

    I can also recommend the following books on the subject:
    The Fast Diet by Dr Michael Mosley
    The 5:2 Diet by Kate Harrison
    The Obesity Code by Dr. Jason Fung

    Best of luck to you!
     
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  9. pixie1

    pixie1 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Leatrix, you have landed on your feet, by joining this forum. The advice you have been given o far is excellent, well and truly tried and tested.
    With you doing research and taking on-board the advise given, you are ahead of the game, by seeing the benefit already.

    You are still waiting for the call, remember stay strong, its your condition, you have the right to treat your condition which suits you best.
    You dont have to go on meds, congratulations that you want to try diet first. So don't let them dictate to you.
    You dont have to listen to what they say, if you disagree with them.

    My team totally disagreed with my suggestion on how to manage my condition.
    They told me, I must eat carbs, low carbing is unsustainable, not to test, as it would cause stress. This was after that I said I'm going to low carb and test.

    I am T2, diet controlled, Hba1c of 36. And I'm about 7 years on from diagnosis.
    Carry on with hat What you're doing.
     
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