An endocrinologist from a local hospital gave a talk at a local village hall entitled "A diabetes overview". I was interested in what he might say and I'm always learning things from different sources.
I learned that 1 in 3 type II diabetics take insulin, something I hadn't realised and I'm still surprised at the number. He also added that between 10 and 20 years all type 2 diabetics will be on insulin, it is a progressive disease. As I've just passed my 21st anniversary I must be doing something right. At the end of his talk the one word he hadn't mentioned was "carbohydrate". Sugar, obesity, exercise, diet, they were all there, but not a word about carbs. I held my tongue and let others (50 people in audience) ask questions. Interestingly there were several people who were pre diabetic and all were wanting to know how not to progress to type 2, after all, he had made a point of saying that it was a progressive disease. His answer was to lose weight, not such a bad idea, except several of the questioners were quite obviously not carrying too much in the way of excess fat.
I thought now was a good time to ask what I thought was a carefully worded question, I didn't want to be a smart **** and offend him. I said "If NICE guidelines suggest that 1/3 of our calories come from carbs, which convert to glucose, and type II diabetics aren't producing enough insulin or are insulin resistant, why don't we tell type II diabetics to eat less carbs". He just said "It's a contentious issue because there hasn't been enough research". So you can see why I was disappointed, but what did I expect.
The interesting thing was that my suggestion to lower carbs, even after I explained what a difference it had made to me, didn't raise an eyelid, even those who were quite obviously aware of the progress of the disease and wanted to know how to slow things down.
Perhaps I should have used another tactic. It's very obvious that members of this forum have a more open approach to caring for themselves.
But nice to see, you are thinking about us in a case like this
I'm celebrating 21 years, 5 years low carb and general health better than it's ever been.So I also hope the endo was incorrect in his 10-20 years all type 2’s need insulin
That’s brilliant! And the sort of diabetic journey that makes me believe it’s achievable!I'm celebrating 21 years, 5 years low carb and general health better than it's ever been.
The title of his talk was lacking in detail. That being it was specifically for type II.
The title of his talk was lacking in detail. That being it was specifically for type II.
It's quite strange that the likes of Jamie Oliver and Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall can campaign against sugar and everybody is on board with that. Even last night people were interested in whether they should be looking at sugar content, not even considering carbs.
You have just described me. It has been a revelation that carbs convert to sugars. I was a T2 on insulin and was told by a doctor at our regional hospital that I was deluding myself if I thought that by cutting carbs I could halt the progression of my diabetes or even reverse some of the horrible stuff that was happening to my eyes and feet. In fact he said that things would just get worse and worse.I am an educated intelligent woman, yet I reached the age of 65 before I learned (from this forum) that carbohydrate converts to glucose. Of course I knew about sugar, cakes, biscuits, chocolate and so on, but really had little knowledge of what carbs were. Had I never found this forum I would still be eating starchy stuff. I didn't even know that T2 and obesity are linked as the media hadn't cottoned on to this at that time. We on this forum are but a tiny minority of T2s out there, so it is not surprising that a third of T2s are on insulin.
I thought now was a good time to ask what I thought was a carefully worded question, I didn't want to be a smart **** and offend him
Jamie Oliver talks the talk, but it doesn't seem to affect his recipes.Yup - understood that already from the content of your writing... I see "us" as the whole forum...
The sad truth is, that not too many people understand the similarity between sugar and carbs, unfortunately. Some doesn't even know that there are sugars instead of only sugar.
I sadly don't think it would matter, even if you try to get the message through with some help from Oliver. This way of thinking, that you are taking carbs into account, is not yet "in" - we can only hope it will soon be. But for that to happen, we are also obliged to try to get the message heard, and there we DO have had some success lately. I think and hope times will change...
And I don't underestimate your good but maybe a bit cautious try to get your voice heard. You did surely sow some seed, and that's what counts.
The word 'Christmas' is an excuse for anything.Jamie Oliver talks the talk, but it doesn't seem to affect his recipes.
https://www.jamieoliver.com/christmas/collection/christmas-desserts/
its not sustainable to have meals without bread or potatoes (rice or pasta).
. What is the obsession with potatoes, rice, bread and pasta?! So incredible that they think that and a bit sad ..
Edited to add sorry Pengimum. I’ve made a mess of copying the quote and realise it wasn’t you who said that.
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