Disgruntlement!

[Sue192]

Thank you for your replies and suggestions, @Rachox, @ickihun, @Bluetit1802, @Resurgam, @Mbaker, @AdamJames, @ringi, @brassyblonde900 and @CL_in_NZ. The nutty crackers are home-made (my favourite cracker recipe) and only consist of sunflower, pumpkin, sesame and chia seeds and psyllium husks. I probably eat too much of them, never mind the fat balls! I will try the fatty protein before bed, change the meal times, lower the calories (less cream for a start....) and see what that does. The piggybank won't let me have a Libre at the moment but that's a definite. Thanks for the encouraging posts, everyone But, *hangs head in shame*, my phone and tablet are out of the Ark and told me off when trying to download the MySugr app, @Rachox. A pity, because it looks great and I like graphs and stuff too!

 

[Sue192]

Sue, the impoetant thing to remember is that YOUR D is different from anyone else’s.

Like you, I found it v difficult to scrape my hba1c down through the low 40s. It was much easier to reduce the higher numbers.

My suggestion is to get yourself one or two Libre sensors and carry on doing exactly what you are doing now. That way you can see exactly where the problems lie. THEN you can make minimal targeted changes.

If you start flailing about with half a dozen diff changes at once, you will never know which ones make the difference.

Hope that helps.

Great minds post at the same time , @Brunneria! Thank you - good point on not changing too much. I think I was focussing on signatures which had fantastic and steady drops into the 30s and so I thought mine would do the same. But I forgot the Forum mantra...... Everybody's body is different from everyone else's body.

 

[brassyblonde900]

Try wearing a libre to get a sense of what may be causing the increases. Also exercise really seems to help as if forces your body to use up glucose stores. When there is less glucose it will get better managing what is available. At least that is what I understand!

Its not about knowing what is causing the elevated BG spike. Its Catecholamines that is inducing the hepatic glucose dump. Its not from exogenous glucose.

 

[ringi]

Unless that person is me of course
All 3 above elevate my BG and keep it elevated. The great thing about it is, I also churn out glucagon by the gallon, I wondered for years, why exercise especially HIIT zapped my appetite. It all makes sense now.

Without a CGM it is hard to tell but it is likely that provided someone keeps strictly to very low carb, the cleared out glucagon will lead to more fat lose over the next few days, and hence reduce inslin restiance a little. (Dr Jason Fung says to ignore increased BG while fasting unless over 10)

 

[brassyblonde900]

Without a CGM it is hard to tell but it is likely that provided someone keeps strictly to very low carb, the cleared out glucagon will lead to more fat lose over the next few days, and hence reduce inslin restiance a little. (Dr Jason Fung says to ignore increased BG while fasting unless over 10)

Thanks for this info.
I went to the IDM site to look further into it, apparently fasting, causes catecholamines, ( counter regulatory hormones) to induce hepatic gluconeogenesis. Mine scared me. It was 8.5 by day 4 of my extended fast. After a session of HIIT, I wondered if I was fasting/ exercising myself toward diabetic complications.

 

[ringi]

It will be very interesting to see your BG once the fast is over and you are back on very low carb. Remember we are playing a long game with defeating type2.....

8.5 for a few days does not increase the risk of complications, it's long term high BG that is the problem.