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Do I count all the carbs

jacksquirrel

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I am just starting to look into a low carb diet and as with everything new I am a bit confused. Hope it's not a stupid question, but do you have to count the carbs in everything you eat? Always done slimming world so it's an alien thing to think I can have butter and cream etc lol.
 
Oh I'm only type 2 on metformin (should have mentioned that but it's my first ever post lol) so I don't have to work that out. Thanks anyway
 
Hi welcome to the forum. :)

I'll tag @daisy1 for some useful introductory information.

Yes I did Slimming World too, but in the end I just went for the weigh-in as I followed LCHF instead of their diet
 
I don't really count carbs.
But I kept more detailed notes for the first few days I low carbed - just so that I knew where the carbs were coming from. It taught me a lot. And nowadays I keep a rough mental tally if I stray off the 'safe foods'.

But as a newbie T2 I would suggest that 'eating to your meter' is a MUCH more helpful way of proceeding. Get yourself a blood glucose meter, if you haven't already got one. Then eat a normal portion of normal food. The kind of thing you have been eating regularly.

Test your blood glucose (bg) before you eat, and then again 2 hours later.
Ideally that food shouldn't raise your bg more that approx 2mmol/l at the 2 hour mark, and it shouldn't be above 7.8 mmol/l at the 2 hour mark.

IF your readings go higher that that, then you know that is a food that affects your bg, and you should consider reducing the portion size until you hit target.

I am the kind of person who gets very bored of detail, records and numbers very quickly (I deal with them all the time at work, and when I am not at work, there is nothing more boring). But it really doesn't take as much effort or time, or test strips as you might think, to hammer out a way of eating that works for your body.

Type 2 diabetics can do this. Type 1s have to be a lot more systematic.
 
@jacksquirrel

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, especially with regards to diet and carbs. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to answer.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
It is probably helpful to count the Carbs you eat initially so that you get a good idea of how much certain foods contain

However you will find that different carbs will affect you differently, and as we are all unique your own meter and frequent testing will ultimately give you the best guide as to what amounts of which foods you can eat.
 
If you're going to eat low carb then this website will be helpful www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

Confusion arises, because people have differing tolerances to carbs and some eat toast, bread, potatoes etc and others with a lower tolerance to glucose can't.
 
I am just starting to look into a low carb diet and as with everything new I am a bit confused. Hope it's not a stupid question, but do you have to count the carbs in everything you eat? Always done slimming world so it's an alien thing to think I can have butter and cream etc lol.


Yes you do as all carbs breakdown into glucose in the body and affects bloodsugar
 
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